Occupy This
by HMJC
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Across the nation there has been a movement to occupy Wall Street or something close to it I guess....I need a little help here trying to figure out what message the protestors want heard. From what I have observed to date there has not been any key issues brought to the forefront of thier campagin. Almost all of the occupy emcampments become a unsanitary place to be due to the bathroom facilities and the food vendors. Mountains of trash are generated to the point where the city has to step in to clean up the mess that came along with the message that is trying to be conveyed. As for the message, what is it that the protestors want changed. I hear wall street and the banks are at fault for all of our economic woes. There is a problem there but I personaly believe it is not the main issue. I want to know what the collective points that they want heard, not how an individual perceives it. All, please keep in mind that is just a blog, please respond in kind as I am very interested to other perceptions and and an opinion about whether or not this should be the main issue to champion.


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HMJC commented on Thursday, Nov 17, 2011 at 13:28 PM

Just a heads up, the movement is trying to come up with a list of demands. The issue they are facing is that each group wants thier demands to be the focal point. Go figure...

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Nov 17, 2011 at 14:19 PM

The Occupiers have not yet refined their cause other than some nebulous claims regarding corporate greed and the de-valuation of non-rich individuals. They need a spokesperson.

They are angry at the growing disparity between the very rich and the shrinking middle class-poor.

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Nov 17, 2011 at 14:24 PM

I am sorry: make that the shrinking middle class evolving into the ever expanding poor.

HMJC commented on Thursday, Nov 17, 2011 at 15:57 PM

Well put Jimmy, the question still remains as is this due to wall street excess? or are there many other contribiting factors. If you look at it at face value they seem to want to be regarded as robin hood. All I would ask is if you are going to protest an issue, have a viable point and present a reasonable course of action.

sebekm commented on Thursday, Nov 17, 2011 at 17:11 PM

That's been the problem - their only point seems to be that they are against "the way things are" and basically want them to be different. When you try to pin them down (interviews outside of tents, on the street, etc.), they can't speak coherently about what they propose as an alternative. Anecdotally, they say they don't like capitalism and don't like "our government," which - if taken literally - seems to indicate that they prefer:

"a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government"

- which is one definition of anarchy.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 06:02 AM

The young man who attended the Wall Street weekend which I referenced on another blog several weeks ago has visited me a number of times since.

He has not been able to make me understand what their mission is.

I don't think he is sure.

Maybe it is my lack of vision however I don't think that is the case.

I'm not sure about Tea Party, Occupy, Democrat. Republican, Left, Right, Liberal or Conservative.

I do know Up or Down.

Our country is down and I mean way down.

There are way to many restrictions and regulations on private enterprise.

There is far too much welfare.

All government employees are overpaid and only a few of them actually work very hard.

And finally we have created a military which we could not afford and have no need for and it has all been done with borrowed money.

Now we cannot afford to pay even the interest on the loan.

The United States is knocking on the door of the Bankruptcy Courts.

It has taken place in my lifetime.

HMJC commented on Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:27 AM

Thanks to all for the input, unfortunetly it seems we all are in concurrance that the protest lacks valadation due to lack of orginization and a common point. My whole point to this blog was to point out that the cause (whatever it is) could be focused on the real issues that could lead to tangible results. We are almost too free of a country as we want to have our cake(that the government pays for) and eat it to as long as no animals were injured making the cake.....

sebekm commented on Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 16:27 PM

It looks like the American people are having a problem figuring out what the "occupiers" really want as well. See:

http://content.usatoday.com/communiti...

But Uncle Newty has a message for them:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/g...

sebekm commented on Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 16:31 PM

...and speaking of The Weekly Standard, this article should be required reading for everyone, regardless of your opinion of the "occupiers":

http://www.weeklystandard.com/article...

HMJC commented on Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 16:32 PM

it's a shame when we cant even protest right......


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