I know I'll get flamed but I am in agreement. The Gov has proposed that probationers do the work. Yeah right. You cannot make that a condition of their probation. People have a right to earn a fair living so if Mr Jones wants to hire the ex-thief Mr Smith, both have a constitutional right to enter into that contract. Now you say what about the prisoners, well I think there is significant population which would cite it as being in opposition to the 13th Amendment. Which side do you think the judges will come down on?
I think this smacks of racism. It targets people who have a certain ethic background. We are a nation of people who came from somewhere else. Yet we come down harder on illegal aliens than we do on a lot of violent criminals. Most of them are honest people trying to make an honest wage doing jobs that most of us think are beneath us. I don't know the answer to the illegal alien issue. I admit that up front but I don't think this even comes close to being a viable answer.
Honestly, most Americans are here Illegally, except the fact that MOST ancestors came here centuries ago, therefor they are now LEGAL. The country was taken from native Americans, and then the ancestors of the thieves now want to say NO MORE people are allowed to come here! LOL
I am all for profiling, if someone is from Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, make them just through any hoop you can think of, and dont give ANY single men from those countries the right to enter. They have a history of terrorism, the Mexicans on the other hand come here to live the dream just like the first colonists did, qand they work jobs no one wants to! lol, I say let em in, they are just as welcome to me as the Irish, Italians, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, etc. They all came here to work jobs the silly Americans were too good to do as well.
By the way Unemployment right now is 9.8 % conservatively according to the state of Georgia.
As i said in my previous blog about the economy, the highest since the great depression of 24% in 1934.
No born american citizen are willing to do that. I would guarantee you that. If I am incorrect, then lets see who is willing to go on the farms and work to harvest crops for a few cents on a dollar, especially in this economy.
News have that North Carolina Legilators are now seeking legislation like the Georgia Legislation, but exempt the illegal immigrants who work on the farm. LOL... Now that a good one.
You are correct about the economy being the worst since the great depression. This is the worst I have seen in my life time.
From the Physical State of mind, to the mental state of mind, to the economic state of mind. That will keep a person in slavery.
This immigration thing is a tough one, especially for the farmers. My cousin who owns a blueberry farm in ALMA is scrounging to find workers. His and other mass produceing farmers are being hit hard.
I agree with up2 that we cannot make the probationers pick the blueberries, the Vidalia Onions, gather the pecans, harvest the tomatoes and peaches, watermelons...etc.
I don't like this law.
I do tho like Ice's profiling of Mid-Easterners. Sounds contradictive I know, but it ain't the mexicans flying airplanes into buildings and blowing innocent people up.
Let the Mexicans in: make mid-easterners jump thru several hoops and screenings before we let them in.
Who says this law will be enforced? This is like a lot of other laws we have that are not enforced.
Did anyone watch the news Tuesday night to hear the Savannah Police Chief say he will not enforce the new Immigration Law because he does not have the time, manpower or jail space.
They are starting a phone line called something verify, where people can call in anonymously, and tell them people they need to check out. Sounds bizzare, but its true. So in ensence any person of any descent can get a surprise visit from immagration officers who will check their documents. The government is sounding more and more like a police state.
The law is the law. Illegal is illegal. Not a citizen or have a visa...you gotta go! You can't make probationers work on farms, but they can make CRIMINALS that are currently in jail. That should be part of the jail sentence. They have them on the side of the highways picking up litter and cleaning up, put them to work picking harvests. There is a vast, untouched labor pool all over the country sitting there lifting weights, taking courses, watching tv and gaining weight all on our dime! What the hell?
No one can make a convicted incarcerated person go to work on the farm. Not even a judge. Now, if a person who is sentenced and is serving time in a penal institution volunteers to work, that is a different story. But to say a individual who is serving time be required to work on a farm or even pick litter off the road, is not true. The only thing a convicted person who has been sentence to serve time is required to do is serve time. The individual you see picking up litter on the side of the road or doing various types of labor, are inmates who want to be out of a cell, and see the outside. Or have brokered a deal to wo these jobs in exchange for good time, which means reducing their sentence.
The laws of MAN are sometimes stupid, honestly, everyone in this country came here illeagally from the current laws stand point if you look back just a few hundred years in the history of the US.
Your not going to get those criminals to do all the work lazy silver spooned Americans wont do, our economy depends on them. The country is headed down the road to distruction, full speed ahead ushered their by people with an idiotic ideology. Oh well, lets all go along for the ride and see what happens! lol
One of the problems of inmates working on farms, aside from the constitutional problems, is they have to be supervised. Now the men you see on the side of the road are usually less than ten, are not convicted of violent crimes and are trustees. To make the Gov's plan work, all inmates would have to work. Now that means they have to be very closely supervised. Think about how many men it would take to properly supervise say 40 men covering five acres, who have access to farm equipment (as an example). The amount paid by the farmers wouldn't pay for the cost of supervision. Already our prison system is broke, it couldn't sustain the added expense.
wow. No wonder a lot of people don't fear going to jail. They get something we supposedly "free" people don't often get...choices. Jails are full of non-violent offenders. If you are convicted and sentenced to years in jail, you should have no rights. You do what you are told to do. Your activities should be structured. If the days activities are that you go to a farm and pick lettuce, you go or suffer the consequences, especially if it is a privately owned prison. People would hate me as a warden.