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The National Anthem Protests: Do Facts Matter?
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Where was the angry left when Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg called the national anthem protests "dumb and disrespectful"?

Let's focus on the "dumb" part.

NFL player Colin Kaepernick, who started the protests, did so over the supposed widespread instances of police brutality against blacks. Kaepernick said, "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. ... There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." According to the Centers for Disease Control, since 1968 police killings of blacks have declined nearly 75 percent. According to The Washington Post, almost 500 whites were killed by cops in 2015, an average of more than one a day. Two hundred fifty-nine blacks were killed by the police. Most suspects killed by police had a weapon.

Now for some perspective.

Do you know anyone who has been struck by lightning? Neither do most people. Yet each year an average of about 300 Americans are killed or injured by lightning. That's approximately 40 more than the number of blacks killed by the police in 2015. Is there an "epidemic" of Americans being struck and injured by lightning? We don't know the number of black men injured by lightning every year, but let's assume the number is 7 percent of the total people struck by lightning, mirroring the percentage of the black male population in America. That brings the average number of black men injured by lightning to about 21.

Out of the 965 people killed by the police in 2015 (as of Dec. 24), the Post reported (on Dec. 26) that "less than 4 percent" involved an unarmed black man and a white cop, the fact pattern most commonly referred to by anti-police activists like Black Lives Matter. Last year, The Washington Post put the number of unarmed black men killed by the police at 17, less than the number of blacks likely struck by lightning. Twenty-two unarmed whites were killed by the police. Any death that results from police misconduct is one death too many, but the point is that police killing of a suspect is rare, no matter the race of the suspect or the cop. And a police shooting of an unarmed black male is still more rare.

But blacks are routinely and disproportionately being stopped, pulled over and/or arrested due to police misconduct, right?

No, not according to numerous studies, many by the government. Take traffic stops. In 2013, the National Institute of Justice, the research and evaluation agency of the Department of Justice, published a study of whether the police, as a result of racial bias, stop blacks more than other drivers. The conclusion? Any racial disparity in traffic stops is due to "differences in offending" in addition to "differences in exposure to the police" and "differences in driving patterns."

According to Philippe Lemoine, writing in National Review, a white person is, on average, more likely to have interactions with the police in any year than a black person, 20.7 percent vs. 17.5 percent. It is true that a black person is more likely to have multiple contacts with the police. But according to the data, multiple contacts with the police are rare, as well. Lemoine writes that 1.2 percent of white men have more than three contacts with the police in a year versus 1.5 percent of black men.

But what about the experience of a black person with the police versus that of a white person? The DOJ's Bureau of Justice Statistics regularly studies this, too. Every year, the BJS surveys a representative sample of 70,000 people. Among the questions, the survey asks whether respondents had contact with the police in the last 12 months. If the answer is "yes," the survey asks a number of follow-up questions, including about use of force.

Let's concentrate on cases involving use of force.

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Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Oct 01, 2017 at 12:03 PM

Colin Kaepernick is an ignorant spoiled black millionaire. Ignorance unknowing of the facts. PN put up a list of 26 blacks that supposedly define Kaepernick's disrespect for a cause that millions of people believe but in reality is untrue in America on October 1, 2017. All lives matter and are important however 26 cases out of 30 million black folk in America is not racism. The Obama justice department cleared Darren Wilson of any wrong doing and the "hands Up Don't Shoot' narrative for Michael Brown is a lie. If Michael Brown comply(Police), he don't die. George Zimmerman was stupid to follow Trayvon Martin when the police told him not to, however what are you to do when you're getting beat down on the ground and that same person is trying to take your gun too? Trayvon Martin was stupid to confront Zimmerman after he gave him the slip and I agree he shouldn't have went home just in case it was a real racist stalker bent out to kill him or his family. Zimmerman made a mistake and so did Martin and its a tragic loss but no injustice or racism here either. The local government of Baltimore directed police to patrol the drug laden neighborhood of Freddie Gray. There is no evidence of racism or neglect in the police officers duties and responsibilities in that case either as Gray fled the scene and resisted arrest.

This is Obama's fundamental transformation of America's culture. During the 50's and 60's blacks protested peacefully for their God given rights and the government led by the Democrat party doused them with water hoses and let dogs attack them and this was allowed. Today blacks disregard and disrespect a direct order by a police officer and people cry racism at every turn totally disregarding the culpits irresponsible behavior. I believe police need more training in handling special needs people however people with common sense need more home training on how to act properly towards police to reduce conflict on both sides. Police Officers are already trained in handling these situations properly, but the more people resist, the worse it gets.

wayne44 commented on Sunday, Oct 01, 2017 at 13:15 PM

Funk, It's hard to oonvince people with facts when their emotions rule their heads. The truth is irrevelant if it does not fit their agenda. Even when what they believe is proven to be false, it doesn't make any difference because they have convinced themselves that what they believe is the only thing that matters.

Sheran commented on Sunday, Oct 01, 2017 at 13:34 PM

The #NFL died .. of Colin Cancer.
Check out his nice looking family!


Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Oct 01, 2017 at 15:22 PM

PN, I didn't read your personal message to me titled "Disappointment" I deleted it youre not my judge and jury and if you send me anymore condescending personal messages I will post it out in the open forum.

If you wish to debate me on the issues please do so in the open, I have nothing to hide and I judge people by " The content of their character " not the color of there skin.

It's a shame that black folk like you are the most free with the most power to do as you will as an American citizen yet cry foul that the white man is holding me down when in general those who fail are doing it to themselves by giving your God given rights away to government. Now that's disappointing!

Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Oct 01, 2017 at 15:49 PM

Wayne you are correct, a co-worker told me Kaepernick was protesting that list and I told her that the Obama justice department cleared Darren Wilson. There's no way in hell that a divisive Obama administration would allow Wilson to be cleared if it wasn't true. I don't know what else to do or say to people who want stand up and support facts. That's a significant part of my survival in life.

Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Oct 01, 2017 at 15:58 PM

Yes Sheran how can you call this a legitimate protest when Kaepernick wore socks depicting cops as pigs and wears a shirt of Fudel Castro it all and proudly. Police shootings are in decline over 75% for blacks BECAUSE we are a nation of laws and not racism and bigotry.

HMJC commented on Wednesday, Oct 04, 2017 at 14:43 PM

Facts, not meanderings, conjecture, or assumptions. Funk, as usual, you do a great job of presenting verifiable statistics that paint a lucid snapshot of the discussion. I think a lot of it comes down to it being easier to blame, someone, something, or an inanimate object for our shortcomings. Not sure what it is going to take at this point to get people to realize that they have a stake in their own success and personal actions, not words are what people see and use formulate their opinions of you.

Now when we tout facts in this day and age it is frighteningly easy for anyone to peruse the internet to find a counterpoint "nullifying" our facts...

In the case of this blog however; it is hard to dispute the "facts". They are not incredulous, far-fetched or based on conjecture. They are what they are; cant makeup lightning strikes or convolute a legal rendering. They are facts surrounding the situation.

Just remember, what you want it to be and what it is are two very different things and we probably need to spend a little more time in the "real world" as opposed to wanna be land...

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