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Much fuss has been made lately about the supposed scoop that BHO is the worst President since WWII. Well, as Mark Twain said there are lies, damned lies and statistics. But, Joseph Stalin had a different spin on tallies. The evil Communist Dictator said, "it is not how many votes one gets but rather how and who does the counting." Such is the case here involving BHO's damnation by the right and their rabid frothing at the mouth about how bad Obama is.

I won't belabor those here with a rambling statement of "authenticity" with a copy and paste job supporting my position. Rather, I will supply the link for those interested to see the falsity of this latest 'poll' and how the numbers were counted.


Enjoy the Fourth of July everyone. Including you poll watchers.

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gacpl commented on Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 18:15 PM

Donna Brazile, a CNN contributor and a Democratic strategist, is vice chairwoman for voter registration and participation at the Democratic National Committee.

just a opinionated story from someone PAID to make the dems look good.

Funkentelecky commented on Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 23:25 PM

Jimmy for a person who has been successful, strong minded and with independent thought, this is a weak comeback to the reality of Obama. The truth is amazing in that Obama has a mainstream media that protects him like drones and are willing to not report the actual facts about his failed progressive agenda. With the world by his side he still polled as worst president since WWII even though Obama and his lackeys to this day demonize and blame Bush even for Obama's failures. If not for your title which actually pertains too Obama he would easily poll over 50% as the worst president since WWII. Happy 4th.

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 06:39 AM

Hi guys. Donna Brazile pointed out the holes in the poll sampling with sound reasoning and facts. Yall have yalls numbers, we have ours.

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 07:24 AM

Yalls poll is flawed and tainted with Tea Party ideologue extremism. You won't admit it. But it is true.

Funkentelecky commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 07:49 AM

Jimmy I don't need a poll to tell me what the truth is just like I called Reagan, JFK and Clinton as the top 3 presidents in my lifetime. This poll is almost exact to my account of actual reality just as Obama is actually the worst president since WWII.

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 07:51 AM

But, since we are at it here, how 'bout that Mississippi Senatorial vote and defeat of the Tea Party guy, due to among other things, it coming about by a plurality of Black Voters voting for the Republican Establishment 'old guy?'

Did you fellas know that Mississippi relies on 49% FEDERAL FUNDING to it in order to exist as a viable State governing entity? It will now and for a long time be controlled by Republicans. Blacks along with many Dem. whites know that Mississippi will NEVER go Democrat. So their choice was simple. That is why the voters rejected an uncompromising Tea Party ideologue and stuck with someone who has demonstrated that he can bring home the bacon. The Tea Party candidate wanted to eliminate Washington's role in Mississippi's Federal gravy train 'meddling.'

Too bad the losing Tea Party guy is a sore loser and is threatening to sue. Word has it that he believes he was robbed. And, besides, the Black vote shouldn't count. Just like it didn't in Florida in 2000. Go figure.

Funkentelecky commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 08:31 AM

Damn Jimmy you are quick on your feet and can type with clear thought very fast and I don't know the nuts and bolts about Mississippi like you but I do know this the establishment is far worse to to this country than a Tea Party Patriot even though I know you won't agree with me on that and it's alright it's ok: however I do know that Obama is exacerbating the failures of this country to an all time low and even though black folk are decent people overall as most of us are, they are the MOST uninformed of all voters in the US to include Donna Brazille!

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 08:49 AM

Well Funk, at least you and I can agree to disagree. And you are right about my view of the Tea Party. I see them as uncompromising ideologues willing to take a beating but keep on ticking. I know you will not like this but I see very much similarity in them and the uncompromising national socialist ideologues in Germany pre 1933 and their commitment to fighting Communism and 'decadent' economic policies within their own government. They refused to reach across the aisle. Same type political rigidity that dwells amongst Tea Partiers. It is their way or the highway.

The Tea Party mantra of 'get big government out of our lives' varies little from what we have seen in other countries that bought into their beliefs. Fortunately we have the blessing of hindsight to see where that kind of thinking leads. We should never forget it. We should learn from it.

gacpl commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 09:22 AM

this is just the latest in a campaign marked by underhanded tactics and vicious personal attacks. A large number of the anti-McDaniel Democrat voters were black Mississippi residents, and it has now surfaced that a scurrilous advertising campaign was used to rally them to the polls. As the UK Daily Mail’s David Martosko writes:

A series of three racially charged radio ads that ran in rural Mississippi on Election Day played a role in driving black Democrats to vote in a Republican primary run-off election. MailOnline has exclusively obtained audio of the ads.

... They claimed that supporters of conservative McDaniel had connections to the Ku Klux Klan and that McDaniel had a “racist agenda.” They also warned that black Democrats “could lose food stamps, housing assistance, student loans, early breakfast and lunch programs and disaster assistance” if he were to become the Republican U.S. Senate nominee.

“Vote against the tea party. Vote Thad Cochran,” one ad said. “If the tea party, with their racist ideas, win, we will be sent back to the '50s and '60s.”

... Each [ad] carried a required acknowledgement stating that it was “paid for by Citizens for Progress.” Clerks at the office of Mississippi's secretary of state told MailOnline that no such group is registered there as a political committee.

The story gets even stranger, however. It turns out that Citizens for Progress is tied to an openly lesbian, longtime black Democrat operative named Mitzi Bickers. Bickers had to resign in disgrace from a job in the Atlanta mayor’s office last year after filing false financial disclosures, but she was back in action in the weeks leading up to the June 24 Mississippi runoff, hired by Cochran forces to get out the black vote. The National Review’s Eliana Johnson provides more detail:

Two Atlanta-based entities affiliated with Bickers, The Bickers Group and the Pirouette Company, were paid thousands of dollars to make robo-calls on Senator Cochran’s behalf by a super PAC that backed Cochran in his bid for reelection. Documents filed with the Federal Election Commission show that Mississippi Conservatives, the political-action committee run by former Mississippi governor Haley Barbour’s nephew Henry, paid the groups a total of $44,000 for get-out-the-vote “phone services.”

As for the politics that made these strange bedfellows, Johnson writes:

When the June 3 primary election was thrown into a runoff, the Cochran campaign began looking to expand the electorate. That meant courting Mississippi’s large African-American population. The campaign deployed volunteers throughout the state’s Delta region, which has a concentrated African-American population, and even hired Democratic operative James “Scooby Doo” Watson to lend a hand. It worked: Turnout in the Delta increased nearly 40 percent on Tuesday.

Note that the robo-calls used some of the same rhetoric as the radio ads.

Funkentelecky commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Jimmy on your last point about the Tea Party I agree with them that leviathan should stay within the limits of its power as designated by the Constitution. When you compromise these laws you spread kaos, dissent, and polarization. Where is Obama and Reid's compromise when it comes to legislation that will help the economy? The House has sent around 40 bills to the Senate and Reid has just sat on them instead of bringing it up for a vote and Obama has stood silent in regards to these bills too. Yet he is out campaigning about a do nothing congress and the uninformed first thought is the "Republicans" when 2/3rd's of the problem is actually because of Democrats. Donna Brazille knows this too however she also knows when she say Congress has a lower rating than Obama, that the uninformed Democrat voters will think "Republican" and the Lamestream media will follow suit too! Not even recognizing that 1/2 a chamber of Congress is lead by the Democrats.

Funkentelecky commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 11:05 AM

.... and can please stop putting me in a box when you say "ya'll ". I'm for what's right by rule of law not political affiliation. It's clearly displayed in my personal prediction of the 3 bests presidents in my lifetime which coincide almost identical to the poll.





JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 15:11 PM

@Funk. Sorry man. It (yall) is just a figure of speech. I didn't mean nothing personal by it. I will be more careful.

Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Jul 06, 2014 at 14:34 PM

Thank you Jimmy, who are your top 3 in your lifetime? I think you posted them but I can't remember!

JimmyMack commented on Sunday, Jul 06, 2014 at 16:20 PM

Hi Funk. I have the same three as you but, as you probably know, they are in different order.


Though I have to admit that I became politically 'aware' when I was 8 or 9 during Eisenhower's administrations. I must admit that I liked IKE. He ran the country with military precision and was a natural leader.

sebekm commented on Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 14:45 PM

JFK's martyrdom is the only reason he ranks in the top half of presidents in the 20th Century. If he had lived and completed two terms, he would have had the Bay of Pigs, Viet Nam, and the Civil Rights demonstrations in the days of Southern Democrats which brought down LBJ. He and Jackie's "charisma" and good looks are similar to what made Obama so popular at the outset of his Presidency. But the proof is in the RECORD. In the case of JFK - there's the moon "goal" and avoiding nuclear war with the Russians - and not a whole lot else.

In the case of Obama, we've had one fiasco after another - as viewed in the short term. Give things 10 years and let them shake out. But I'll guarantee you one thing: If Obama had met JFK's fate in his first term, he would be a martyr like none other has ever been seen in this country, and that includes Abraham Lincoln and MLK Jr. The country would be ranking him as one of the BEST presidents right now if he met JFK's fate in his third year - as opposed to voting him as the WORST since WWII - regardless of his record. That's what makes the JFK ranking an anomaly. People are ranking America's most beautiful First Couple in the context of the Zapruder film. Nothing can compete with that.

As for presidents, you have to measure them by their ACCOMPLISHMENTS. In this regard, you probably have to rank Reagan and Clinton at the top since WWII because they were the only presidents (aside from possibly Ike) who left office with the country in better shape than when they took office. Obama hasn't left office yet, but I see very little in the way of accomplishments that have benefitted THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY. Making slice fringe Democratic party constituencies happy doesn't get it when you talk about political legacies.

THAT'S why polls - the voice of the people as a snapshot in time - are important. They reveal what the MAJORITY of Americans think about the political happenings of the day.

JimmyMack commented on Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 16:00 PM

Disagree about JFK: He energized the Peace Corps, invigorated Space Exploration leading to a man on the moon and the resultant advances in technology still being seen today, had his AG brother take on the corruption of the Teamsters and Jimmy Hoffa, advocated minority inclusion into the National Guard, faced down Kruschev during the Cuban Missile Crisis, contributed positivity to leadership and the value of individuals devoting themselves to their country....to name just a few things.

He was taken way too early and no doubt would have taken America further into economic prosperity and National pride.

JFK earned his ranking as one of the best Presidents since WWII.

Funkentelecky commented on Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 08:17 AM

JFK also energized black folk with statements like"Ask not what your country can do for you,but what you can do for your country" and he also cut the top tax rates from 90% to 70% that jump started the economy under LBJ. The country is sorely missing constitutional Democrats like JFK and Bill Clinton. And I think Chief is right that we have boosted JFK's rating because of his martyrdom and potential for even more greatness that we have presented here if he had served two terms.

Today's democrats have changed that statement to resemble this" Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you" which have lead to more government dependency Food stamps amongst blacks has went up from around 7.5M to 11M and what's even more disturbing is since I'm a boots on the ground American I've discovered single black women selling their food stamps for cash. Just 3 weeks ago 65$ worth of food stamps were sold for 25$. I'm tired of my tax dollars being wasted by beauracrats in Washington DC who trickle it down to constituents for votes. The black woman that sold the food stamps is a single mother of two.

sebekm commented on Monday, Jul 14, 2014 at 15:01 PM

Jimmy and Funky: I understand your points. I'm just sayin' if JFK had served out his term(s), I don't think it is likely he'd be ranked so high (#3 since WWII in most polls). His assassination undoubtedly has elevated his presidency in the minds of the American public to a mythical/legendary status not really earned in a less-than-three-year term. What is at work here is referenced in a famous quote from the movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance":

"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

It is the LEGEND of JFK which is ranked #3 in the polls - not his accomplishments. Heck - Dubya has a HUGE list of accomplishments, and he's ranked ALMOST as low as Obama. But then again - Dubya wasn't a Democrat; wasn't married to Jackie; and didn't get murdered in front of the entire country in the days of Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons, and Andy Griffith.

JimmyMack commented on Monday, Jul 14, 2014 at 15:49 PM

Sebe: We can beat this horse all day but I disagree emphatically with your view.

JimmyMack commented on Monday, Jul 14, 2014 at 16:10 PM

@Sebe: Who are your top three?

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