" As Predicted"
by HMJC
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As discussed many times here is the quandary of our 2nd Amendment rights. Nobama continues to use Executive Order to completely undermine a common-sense collective way ahead for any positive change. The next two articles paint a vivid picture of where this going. What they are doing is violating the HIPPA agreement and leaving a whole lot of latitude for bias assessment. Now, do I think someone who is actually suffering well documented treatment that would prevent gun ownership? No, The problem once again with the proposal is it is too generic in nature and I will tell you this; if they take them don't expect to ever see them again.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/09/a-form-of-gun-confiscation-has-reportedly-begun-in-new-york-state-heres-the-justification-being-used/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/03/obama-administrations-two-quiet-new-executive-actions-on-who-can-buy-a-gun/


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sebekm commented on Wednesday, Jun 11, 2014 at 15:07 PM

I'm sorry, HMJC, but we do need some "common sense" gun control. I was hoping that some of the reforms relating to background checks, assault weapon/high capacity magazines would have been enacted, but now what we have as a result of the "victories" by the gun proponents is more "phone and pen" stuff by Obama.

I'm not sure it had to be (or would have been) a slippery slope. Some concessions might have promoted compromise on this and other issues. I'm afraid we'll continue to see more of this until Obama and Holder are out of office. 953 days and counting:

http://mycountdown.org/fullpage.php?g...

timeontarget commented on Thursday, Jun 12, 2014 at 06:51 AM

We really don't need high capacity rapid fire rifles and pistols to protect ourselves.

A pump shotgun is very capable.

gacpl commented on Thursday, Jun 12, 2014 at 07:31 AM

we didn't need the same kind of weaponry that militarys used until we needed them to fight a tyrannical government (1776). they also came in handy during WW2 (it is believed japan did not try to invade due to how well armed the civilian population was). guns are not just about protecting us from criminals. we should be also taking note that all the mass shooting are taking place in "gun free" zones where they know one one will be able to protect themselves

HMJC commented on Thursday, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:11 AM

I do concur that common sense initiatives should be considered, My qualms in this instance is a broad sweeping interpretation of ones mental state. Granted I truly don't know how there will not be mistakes with this "legislation" and once you are required to surrender your legally purchased firearms; even if there is a mistake it will be almost impossible to get them back.

I own an M4, its what I carried in the Army and I like to shoot it. I have no claims that this is my personal defense weapon. I just like it... I will also concede that I cannot justify why I have it besides that fact that I am an avid shooting sports type of guy who likes things that go boom...

Lastly although not a great point; if someone is determined to obtain a weapon to commit crimes; they will find that weapon regardless of any gun control measures enacted. Furthermore, if they cant do it with a gun they will find another way.

sebekm commented on Thursday, Jun 12, 2014 at 13:47 PM

Agree totally. If guns aren't available, they find pressure cookers, knives, etc., but automatic weapons with high capacity magazines do improve the quantity and efficiency of murderers who are able to obtain them.

As for my Army experience, I much preferred carrying the M1911 to the M16, so when I retired I purchased a Colt Defender .45 ACP, which is essentially an M1911 but reduced in size and weight. It's the only weapon I have around the house for "home defense." If I could have another weapon from my Army experience, it would definitely be the M79. If you are unfamiliar with this weapon, see:

http://world.guns.ru/grenade/usa/m79-...

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MediaP...

Not much use for "home defense," but it sure was fun to shoot.

HMJC commented on Friday, Jun 13, 2014 at 07:21 AM

Exactly my point... we will just have to see how this pans out I guess

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jun 13, 2014 at 07:37 AM

It has always been my understanding that our founding fathers were of the opinion that we needed the right to bear arms in case we were ever to feel like we needed to overthrow our government.

sebekm commented on Friday, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:41 AM

That was the idea. But governments by nature do not want to be overthrown; consequently, we have this back and forth on what "rights" we should have (at least in this country).

The public good has to be weighed against individual rights and the need for law and order. There will never be total agreement on the issue, and the majority consensus is not necessarily correct in all cases. It's a tough one, that's for sure.


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