ObamaCare “Doing Well?” Not Exactly
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A new McKinsey survey reports that 74% of ObamaCare enrollees were PREVIOUSLY INSURED. This blows a huge hole in the Obama administration’s statistical “skewing” that they had 8 million sign-ups under ObamaCare. The stated goal of the program was NOT to screw-up the health care plans of six million previously insured Americans and have force them to enroll in health insurance with coverage they don’t want with higher premiums and higher deductibles – which is what ObamaCare has done. Remember – it supposedly was “if you like your plan you can keep your plan” (a.k.a. Lie Of The Year For 2013) from the President on down when they were selling this program..

No - the Obama administration’s goal was supposedly (even if implicitly) to enroll their target number - changed several times but finally settled on7 million by the time of their “mission accomplished” Rose Garden celebration – of PREVIOUSLY UNINSURED people. We now find out that the actual numbers of new enrollees who have paid their initial premium is around two million.

This government put the entire country through this mess for a measly two million new enrollees? To that I say:

Throw the bums out.

For the entire survey results, see: http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/05/10/new-mckinsey-survey-74-of-obamacare-sign-ups-were-previously-insured/

Here are a few more interesting tidbits revealed by the survey – as summarized by our friends at HotAir.com:

*“Of course we’ve seen the propaganda push from the White House that has claimed the numbers (8 million enrolled) mean that the law is working. As usual, the devil is in the details. If the law was designed to provide coverage to those who were uninsured, 25% of the total enrolled fitting that description is hardly indicative of that claim’s efficacy. And when you break down that 25% number, it’s even less indicative:

--At most around 930,000 people have gained coverage from Obamacare’s under-26 “slacker mandate” (not 3 million, as is commonly suggested); another 3 million or so have gained coverage from the law’s expansion of Medicaid. Approximately 2.6 million previously uninsured individuals have obtained coverage through the ACA exchanges and the related off-exchange individual markets; however, the off-exchange purchases are mostly unsubsidized, and therefore can’t necessarily be credited to Obamacare.

*In reality, what the law has essentially done rearranged the burden of payment among those enrolled while really not doing much at all in terms of reaching those for whom it was supposedly designed to help:

--What the exchanges appear to be doing is mainly helping people who were previously insured. If you’re 62 years old, say, and your income is $30,000, and you were paying for your own coverage before, you’re now eligible for plans that are much cheaper for you, thanks to taxpayer-funded subsidies and higher premiums for young people.

--Of course that means that other people are paying more. “My old plan was canceled under Obamacare,” an exasperated Californian told me last week. “The new Obamacare plan costs twice as much, and the deductibles are higher. And yet Obama is counting me as one of his 8 million people!” But hey—at least he has maternity coverage.”

And I’m sure our Californian is eternally grateful for big brother deciding for him that maternity care was an absolute necessity for which he must pay. But the point is the 8 million number remains very shaky (and that’s being kind) and it really doesn’t at all reflect what the White House would have you believe it reflects – that the law is working.”

See: http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/12/three-fourths-of-obamacare-enrollees-were-previously-insured/

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PoliticsNation commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 17:11 PM

Seb-you need to give it up. Your so bitter about the success of the ACA that's your starting to act like Carl Rowe on the night Mitt lost the election. Wolf Had to take him to the back room and bring him back to reality...You can post what you want- I told you early in the game Obamacare isn't going anywhere. Your boy's in DC have thrown in the towel-you may want to consider finding an new hobby too.

PoliticsNation commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 17:11 PM

"Obamacare wasn't going anywhere."

sebekm commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 17:25 PM

Why should I 'give it up?" Survey after survey shows the programs IS NOT DOING WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. Do you even bother to even read and digest the entire blog - to include in this case a rather lengthy survey? You can't, since your response was posted SEVEN MINUTES after I put up the basic blog.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, PN. Your contemporaries are losing credibility and shrinking in numbers. I will continue to highlight and comment on what the rest of us have known all along - that this program isn't worth the trouble it took to draft and implement, and will do more harm than good.

sebekm commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 17:43 PM

...and here's more "to think about":

The Headline: Over $5 Billion and Counting for Obamacare Websites

According to the Fiscal Times:

"Largely inoperable state exchange websites in Maryland, Massachusetts, Oregon and Nevada have racked up $474 million federal tax dollars so far, Politico first reported. The costs will continue to climb as states scramble to salvage the flailing websites or transition onto the federal exchange."

"Maryland will spend an additional $40 million to save its website, which has already cost $90 million. Nevada has spent $50 million to date and will decide in the coming weeks how much more it will spend on repair efforts. Massachusetts will pour an additional $121 million into fixing its severely troubled state portal, while also using the federal portal as a back up plan."

For more, see: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Article...

And this is in just a handful of states. We were never told that these HUGE costs would be required to help what now stands at around TWO MILLION PEOPLE. Also, we had a reasonable expectation THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD DO IT RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH. This is the "new age of technology" after all. If they tried to implement this program 50 years ago they couldn't have screwed it up any worse.

And remember, ObamaCare was supposed to LOWER health care costs - not send the expenses for health care itself and for its administration through the roof - all at taxpayer expense of course.

As Edward Morrissey of The Fiscal Times put it so well:

"So no, the rapid increase in spending does not indicate that the system is working to lower costs, an absurd if not Orwellian construct. Nor is the debate “over,” no matter how many times Obama claims otherwise."

See: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns...

sebekm commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 17:46 PM

"Obamacare wasn't going anywhere."

You probably didn't read my posts, but I've repeatedly said the same thing. But that doesn't mean that it WASN'T A MISTAKE, and that the rest of us shouldn't continue to point this out so that the perpetrators can be punished at the ballot box.

The best thing that can happen for Republican candidates is that "ObamaCare isn't going anywhere." It will continue to pay election dividends as its "unintended consequences" are felt in the years to come - REGARDLESS of how they try to "fix" it.

Funkentelecky commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 18:34 PM

PN, I don't understand why you think Chief will give up on a law that is so flawed and that was passed with so many lies and deceit in addition to being forced down our throats.

Instead of Chief quitting why don't you learn how America was built and how it may continue to prosper from an American Black Conservative(ABC) Herman Cain, add this link to your URL and listen to him 24/7 so you may learn some objectivity in comparison to reality and what truly works.


Like Herman said; The Democrats blew up the building, to fix a leak in the roof!

PoliticsNation commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 19:15 PM

Funk-I read daily and I educate myself on issues quite often. I don't need to listen to Mr.999 or Rush.

We have different views. I could suggest that you listen to James Madison ( the black eagle) and learn what's happening in the black community.

Funkentelecky commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 20:09 PM

That's fine and your decision I suggested it because you suggesting people to do things to. However it's your losses not mine Herman Cain is more than Mr.999 he's a great leader that endured institutional racism and is more of a leader and role model than Barack Hussein Obama, a man that's black that don't actually know what's it's really like to grow up black like you me and Herman.

PoliticsNation commented on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 20:15 PM

@Funk-I will check out the site.

HMJC commented on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM

I think it is a good point that most of Black America does not consider Nobama to be in tune with "real" Black issues.

His greatest "accomplishment" is to be the 1st Black President. Just a reminder that this is a statistic; not a milestone...

The NAFA act(Not So Affordable Healthcare Act) is proven to be flawed and volatile at almost every turn however; both sides of the issue are committed to their interpretation with no middle ground. PN and Jimmy are right about one thing; the true measure of the success/failure of the legislation will be evidenced as time passes. The NAFA is already poised to implode; I just hope that the damage created by this train wreck is not irreversible.

sebekm commented on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 at 14:24 PM

Funky: Herman Cain and his business acumen wouldn't have let the situation get to this point. He would have focused on jobs and the economy, and would have fine-tuned the health care system to help those who needed help and do no harm to the rest. That is the basic issue that the left refuses to see. They blindly follow the Dems and their program because they feel to do otherwise would be disloyal to Obama. The biggest failures in history have followed this exact path.

HMJC: Very little is irreversible, in my opinion. Those executive orders done with a phone and a pen can be reversed with the stroke of a pen. I am generally against one party controlling the WH and both houses of Congress (see 2009-2011 when ObamaCare was foisted on America), but the GOP may need it in order to fully "fix" the mess from the past 5+ years. But most can be remedied without controlling everything. At the very least, if the GOP can get the Senate they can limit Obama's "flexibility" over the last two years of his presidency and set the stage for 2016.

Of course, they need a candidate for 2016 or it will be four more years of a Dem in the WH. I don't see one emerging yet....

sebekm commented on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 at 14:41 PM

...and here's more recent news about ObamaCare:

*The LA Times reports that the program will cost $1.2 BILLION *MORE* than initially projected in California alone. Who pays? The taxpayers, of course.


*The Weekly Standard exposes "five phony success stories" of ObamaCare:


These success stories (TWS calls them "myths") have to do with the Dems massive spin tactics on rising health care rates; actual lower enrollment numbers; the effects on insurance companies and who foots the bill when THEY lose; the contention that the law is "working"; and the left's insistence that ObamaCare can not be "repealed."

ALL of these myths are debunked, and it is pointed out how even "repeal" is still in play. (In fact, the Obama administration ITSELF has taken numerous actions since the law was enacted to effectively repeal -- they call it "fix" or "delay" or "postpone" -- major portions of the legislation which they had to pass in order to know what was in it.)

This is no way to run a country. It's just another indication that the inmates are running the asylum. We need some ADULT LEADERSHIP in Washington.

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