What is the motivation behind your objective discussion on Racism?
What do you hope to accomplish by having this discussion?
Agree. Unless there are new visitors to the blog, any "objective discussion about racism" is impossible.
Ok , HMJC institutionalized racism is only a smidgen of what it used to be before the civil rights and voting rights passage; therefore no one has a legitimate excuse to not be successful in America in 2014 unless you have disability or some sort of pre-existing condition that prevents you to function in a competent manner. Social racism is a bit higher maybe 10-15%; however this type of racism doesn't effect anyone unless that aren't disciplined enough to deal with it appropriately with damaging themselves in any way. We are human beings and no government beauracrat can prevent a racist from hating or be able to make any country into a perfect world. Too many people still live in the past and won't embrace the potential of the future.
Thanks Funky, You response is well received as you provide an unbiased analysis. Unfortunately it seems that Sebe is right; was hoping for more points of view. I really was not trying to "accomplish anything; I just wanted to have a diverse conversation that elicited multiple responses. Regardless even if a discussion doesn't occur; I hope that I at least provided some food for thought...
You're welcome HMJC, as brothers in arms that bled green no matter what color the next man or woman were, we understand that we don't have all the answers as individuals but as leaders we had to make critical decisions based on imperial data "facts". I've been frightened by the Klan, seen the coloreds water fountains and restrooms and have been called the "N" word by Chuckie Parker back in 1970 when we integrated with white folk at Cypress Middle School back Suffolk Va back in the day. However I don't live in the past and I judge people by the content of their character. I've met a lot of wonderful folk in my lifetime of numerous races and countries throughout the world. We definitely live in the best country in the world and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Here's another white boy keeping the racist fire going. I have said before that I am not sure that some minorities are totally aware of how deep the roots of hate based on race are in some caucasion people.
Very disgusting isn't it!
Racism is and always be revolting however; it still seems to be convenient to demonize "whitey:... Although this is an example of the issue we could also easily find something portraying other ethnicities perpetrating the same behavior. This is once again; an example of "cherry picking" looking for the most offensive fruit. If you are going to make a comparison how about presenting BOTH sides of the issue so as to portray it as a collective issue; not just one race...
Hi HMJC. I ain't sayin racism lies only in the bailiwick of whitey. Sure, it exists in others of varying hues of skin. I believe it exists in the wide ranging shades of ebony amongst those classified as BLACK.
However, the overt repression of Blacks in American society has been perpetrated upon them by the white race. For goodness sake, we enslaved them based on their color. Even after receiving their 'freedom' Whites denied them equal footing in education, jobs, and governing. Whites employed organized white repression via the KKK.
When I see and saw in the past from Blacks (think Black Panthers here) was a reaction to what some of them were forced into enacting in an effort to stop the white man from killing, raping their women, burning their houses down, burning their churches, segregating their education, and drinking water from public fountains and from sitting in WHITES ONLY restaurants.
So, yes. Racism exists amongst other ethnicities but in America, 'whitey' has been the one with the whip throughout our history. And it is my supposition that that cancer is embedded in the very DNA of some White folks.
Ever heard of DWB...driving while black?
It IS INSTITUTIONALIZED by some in our society. Check out the number of Blacks that own an NBA franchise, NFL, or Major League Baseball.
If we are going to talk about it here, we have to admit and come to terms with the brutal reality of what has been done and in some cases CONTINUES to be perpetrated upon minorities by the White man in order to obtain absolution of our sins against Blacks if we want to move the ball down the field.
Jimmy are you aware that black slave masters in Africa sold my African forefathers to America? That was the culture of the time period. So it's not just the white man in America's fault. When the USA was finally born a constitution was enacted which is anti-slavery leading up to the a Emancipation a Proclamation. I've been done wrong by some whites however I consider them to be isolated incidents and I don't blame any white person at all for the"sins of our past". You and HMJC don't owe blacks anything other than treating them by the content of their character in 2014. IMHO Martin Luther King would be more proud of whites progress in regards to racism than my fellow blacks who still cling to the past.
"Jimmy are you aware that black slave masters in Africa sold my African forefathers to America?"
Yes I am Funk, my friend. Just as I am knowledgeable of the Egyptians keeping the Jews in servitude until Moses led them to the Promised Land. I have admitted that racism exists among other ethnicities other than the White Race. I was focusing on what that horrible history is HERE in America... occurring even before me and you existed and even into the America of TODAY.
I am unaware of any organization that is called the National Association for the Advancement of White People. Whites got a 400 year head start in America.
Funk, have you ever heard the phrase that 'white men can't jump, but Blacks can't climb the corporate ladder'?
How many brokerage houses and financial institutions are headed by Blacks and other minorities. From an economic standpoint minorities have yet to catch up. It is an economic question of wealth. As Chris Rock has noted, their is a difference between wealth and being rich. Shaq is rich. But the man who signs Shaq's checks is Wealthy. It is still an uneven playing field in my view. We still have a long road to travel til we realize MLK's Dream.
Thanks Jimmy you are indeed a good man with conviction, plenty of knowledge and personal experiences; however are you aware that my father and mother had 3rd and 4th grade educations, had to walk several miles to school and had to drop out of school to work on the farms to help the family. Additionally we had no running hot water had to wash up in a metal tub, had to go to the restroom in a metal pot in the house or outside to the outhouse, slept 3 to a bed and had to endure each other's urine from time to time. Graduated Highschool and went to work for minimum wage and had to pay rent to my mother while still living there as an adult at 18-22 years old, had to pull my weight by doing necessary choirs while working and especially when I was laid off from work during the Jimmy Carter economy. I didn't know any better and thought Carter was a wonderful President. Jimmy have you ever asked yourself why the 400 year head start for whites haven't affected or prevented me from owning a home, working for a Gulfstream Aerospace and in the top 10% income earners in the USA?
Funky, I would respond that you made a commitment to succeed regardless of the challenges and ignorance that were in front of you. You are the statistic no one wants to talk about. Personally I don't think color was your driving force; you were and remained determined regardless which illustrates that one can make it if they never stop trying. Much love Brother!