The opposing view was articulated by Ross Douthat in his NY Times opinion piece from April 8th, to wit:
"....pluralism is not a one-way street: If you want (as I do) a culture where Catholic schools and hospitals and charities are free to be Catholic, where evangelical-owned businesses don’t have to pay for sterilizations and the days-after pill, where churches and synagogues and mosques don’t have to worry about their tax-exempt status if they criticize “sexual modernity,” you also have to acknowledge the rights of non-religious institutions of all sorts to define their own missions in ways that might make an outspoken social conservative the wrong choice for an important position within their hierarchies."
I think a much better demonstration of left-wing bigotry is the recent case where Brandeis University rescinded an offer of an honorary degree to a woman who is an outspoken critic of RADICAL Islam. (I make a distinction between "radical" Islam and the rest of Islam - as does the former honorary degree recipient and most of the civilized world.) See:
Hirsi Ali, a former member of the Dutch Parliament who has spoken out against female genital mutilation and honor killings, is known as a defender of women’s rights in Islamic societies.
She has come under criticism for remarks about Islam. In a 2007 interview with Reason magazine, Hirsi Ali was quoted as saying “there is no moderate Islam” and that Islam needed to be defeated
Moderate Muslims do exist: Kareem Jabbar, Cat Stephens, Ahmad Rashaad, Muhammed Ali, Hakeem Olajawan, and many other Muslims that attend Moderate Mosques.
However, Radical Islamic Fundamentalism is a Cancer that is rejected by informed and faithful Muslims. Radical Islamic Fundamentalism worships Death, while most of the Western Religions recognize the sanctity of human life.
@Tot: Also looks like you have found some people of like narrow mind to join your coffee group!
It is good to widen the circle.
sebekm, I guess the statement she was quoted as saying in 2007 in the interview with Reason magazine about "there is no moderate Islam" is the reason the school decided to withdraw the Honorary Degree.
You would think that they knew about that before they offered her the honorary degree. The way the renege went down makes it look like the university caved to political correctness.
But speaking of correctness - I think she is absolutely correct: There is no moderate Islam. The religion teaches total commitment - all or nothing. This is why the radicals have some cover in the religious teachings. But what she didn't say was that "all of Islam is radical." That's different than saying "there is no moderate Islam."
A long time ago I asked my son to explain to me the difference between Christians and Muslims.
His immediate answer was. " Dad basically they believe as Christians, such as you should not steal or lie and you should honor God and so forth," then he paused and said "but they believe unlike Christians that if they encounter someone who is not Muslim that they are bound to destroy that individual, while Christians believe in Freedom of Religion"
That is what I have been led to believe. Hopefully I am not misinformed.
sebe thanks for your input.
Here's a pretty good comparison:
sebekm this is very interesting and I am having to take time to study it.
I appreciate you posting this link.
I'm moving it to my "favorites" so that I can continue to dig into it.