November 2014 Elections: Why ObamaCare Matters
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The results of a Rasmussen poll released earlier this week tells part of the story:

“33% Say They’ve Been Personally Hurt by Health Care Law

One-in-three U.S. voters now says his or her health insurance coverage has changed as a result of Obamacare, and the same number say the new national health care law had a negative personal impact on them.

Forty percent (40%) of Likely U.S. Voters have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of the health care law, while 56% regard it unfavorably, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. This includes 16% who view the law Very Favorably and 41% who have a Very Unfavorable opinion of it.“


As the saga of ObamaCare continues to unfold, it is clear why the Republicans see the issue as such a clear winner for the November 2014 elections. The people who are generally helped by the law include constituencies that the Democrats already have in their pockets. They are not likely to change their voting affiliation or their votes. The ObamaCare “losers” are primarily Republicans, independents/swing voters, and voters who are “self-insured” (those who purchase insurance on their own/not through an employer).

It is VERY unlikely that ObamaCare will cause a significant number of Republicans to change their party affiliation or their votes. The real battleground – and what makes ObamaCare such an important issue in the upcoming election – are the constituencies which the law tends to negatively affect and which are NOT in the pockets of the Democrats: the independents and the swing voters. This group includes a large number of self-insured voters.

Remember that it was the independents/swing voters who were primarily responsible for carrying the Democrats to their last two national election victories in 2008 and 2012. The Dems literally COULD NOT have done it without them. So as we approach November, the scramble is on by the Democrats to kick the can down the road and postpone any further negative impact of ObamaCare provisions on the “unaffiliated” voters. These provisions include the fines/penalties for non-compliance with the “individual mandate,” and full implementation of the “employer mandate.” When those kick-in, it is projected that higher rates/premiums and fewer choices will again dominate the news cycle as the “real stories” of a whole new batch ObamaCare “victims” will hit the airways. And the Dems can’t have that happening in September and October; hence the postponement of these provisions to 2015 and beyond.

For a further discussion of ObamaCare and how the GOP sees the importance of independents/swing voters and the self-insured, see:

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shannalat commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 11:04 AM

The affordable care act... oh this is a hot bed issue for many reasons.
I think first and foremost is that this act does nothing to provide the American public with health care...

It is a law which makes Health insurance "affordable" and accessible to all US citizens.

health insurance does not equal health care.
I know the law is packed full of consumer protections from some poor practices that used to be employed by the insurance companies and I applaud that, but it is important first and foremost to grasp that health insurance does not equal health care.
I have always found the concept of health care insurance odd. We insure our house, car boat fill in the blank from accidents. There are fires, collisions and fill in the blank.
We are insuring ourselves like car boat house but the thing is we do not accidentally get old or pregnant (no matter what the kids say) We may accidently break our arms. But most of the time our car insurance companies pay medical bills when accidents happen. Or home owners insurance covers the medical bills.
So see the whole idea of affordable health care is great but this is not affordable health care this is affordable health insurance and health insurance is well a silly concept.

PoliticsNation commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 12:00 PM


Wouldn't you say a person that goes to a doctor and finds out they have an incurable disease or cancer is like an unexpected event? So in a way we are insuring ourselves like the items mentioned above because those illness usually aren't foreseen- like accidents.

Say you don't have health care and out of the blue you find out you have cancer. Under the old law-if you didn't have insurance before the unexpected event your out of luck-sell your car and house because your going to pay out of pocket !

Also, if you've ever lost a job or switched jobs-you had to wait 90-6mths to qualify for your new employers health care plan. During that time you had to pay for care out of pocket and COBRA is much more expensive than the ACA. Under the ACA you no longer have to wait and if you lose your job your still covered and they have subsides to help cover the cost (if your state expended medicaid).

The legislation isn't perfect but it's much better than the old legislation.

shannalat commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 12:44 PM

oh there are definitely accidents with health concerns but then health insurance has to and does outline what is an "accident" what is "cosmetic care" is an insurance company obligated then to cover a patient who smoked and got cancer?
These are questions and claim come up because it is health insurance and not health care.
The legislation is not perfect it is needed and honestly there should be more. I look forward to a day when the United States department of health and human services actually treats everyone's health needs.

Funkentelecky commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 13:51 PM

Let's set aside personal emotions about the ACA and focus on actual data. There are an estimated 1.5% of Americans that have pre-existing conditions which we could have given a $10,000 dollar subsidy which would cost about 10% of what this bad legislation cost. Legislation could have also been done to cover people losing there job 90 days to six months also with lower costs. Tort reform and the ability to sell insurance across state lines with increase competition and lower the cost too. I know this from personal experience because I was stationed in Colorado in 1986 and I winded up purchasing car insurance from my home state instead of Colorado because it was cheaper. If President Obama had lead like he said he would by reaching across part lines he would have influenced Nancy Pelosi to send HR3400 to the floor for a vote in
July 2009. This legislation was sponsored by a Doctor; Rep Tom Price from Georgia and was sent to committee Pelosi and buried in the sand. This bill would have passes resoundingly and Obama would have gotten the credit for leading. I have followed this legislation from its inception and it's bad governing which main purpose is the ability to control peoples lives instead of giving us the opportunity to do so ourselves. HR 3400 was 300 pages long and HR3200 is
over 2500 pages that hardly anyone read before passage. Nancy Pelosi" We must pass the bill to find out what's in it" Now we know and most of us don't like it.

shannalat commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 14:12 PM

oh yeah see I think the presidents lack of diplomacy and negotiation skills resulted in this legislation as opposed to better legislation or even a better dialogue about health care in this nation.

JimmyMack commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 14:25 PM

Seems the Conservative's have found a recruit.

JimmyMack commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 14:29 PM

I take that seems shan that you may be in the Middle.

PoliticsNation commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 14:46 PM

NO, they have found a recruit. I was sooo excited!

shannalat commented on Friday, Mar 07, 2014 at 14:55 PM

ha ha I think it is the middle not ready to jump on either train just yet.

sebekm commented on Saturday, Mar 08, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Shannalat: Don't let anybody intimidate you. Speak your mind - no matter which "side" of the argument you may favor.

As far as "conservative recruits" - from the election projections (albeit 8 months early), it looks like they are gaining "recruits" by leaps and bounds as people find out what the real ObamaCare deal is. One BIG question has always been:

Where will the money come from to pay for the program?

The Obama administration's answer has been that the program will essentially pay for itself in reduced health care costs and premiums on the young and the "uninsured" that were expected to enter the marketplace and add money that was not previously there. Forget about the botched roll-out of the web site. The Obama administration says that is now "fixed." If you believe them, then these results can't be good for the Democrats or the program:

and especially:

Funky is exactly correct: There is no question that health care reform was needed. The uninsured and those with pre-existing conditions needed help. The problem is - which is the main point I have been stressing all along :


Instead of having this incredibly screwed-up launch and now all of these "fixes," the Democrats could have worked with Republicans from the beginning to craft the law to iron out these issues. Shoot - basically most of the stuff the Republicans predicted about flaws in the law have come true, and the delays in the implementation of certain provisions of the law that they wanted are the delays the Obama administration IS NOW IMPLEMENTING.

The difference is that the Democrats have been dragged kicking and screaming into legislative modifications they should have seen necessary from the beginning, and the main reason for the delays is NOT to "help the American people," it's to minimize the damage to their candidates in the upcoming election.

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Mar 08, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Shan: Be very wary of Sebe. He has some 'prime' land hidden out in the Gumbranch area due for development that he wants to sell you. I am surprised he hasn't approached you yet. He is very good at making his case be it politics or real estate.

Be Careful. Better yet...Be Afraid, be very afraid.

sebekm commented on Saturday, Mar 08, 2014 at 14:28 PM

Nice try, Jimmy. Obviously you are trying to "recruit" our newest blogger. I'm sure she will consider the facts and come to her own conclusions.

For the record: I own no land other than that on which my single family dwelling is situated in Hinesville. And I am not selling it.

As for the vast majority of my posts (and somewhat paraphrasing Boozy Barley Blair from "The Russia House"):

*By and large, the information I post here is NOT "my" information - a lot of it is extracted from news and opinion sources. When I do this, I use that information to illustrate my own points.

*Also, what I post here a lot of the time is intended to be "food for thought," and is intended simply to provoke/stimulate a dialogue. I may not even agree with some of the sources I post. Generally, the reader will know which "side" of an issue I'm on.

*In any case, I'm not selling anything.

*And, lastly, I don't give a flip whether anyone "buys" my opinions or not.

But what I do care about is that people are fully informed and have an opportunity to see all sides of an issue and the facts. In many cases - especially with the way the media is set up and the political party in national power - the "opposing view" needs a little help.

I have taken it upon myself to give the opposing view all the help I can.

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Mar 08, 2014 at 16:35 PM

Shan. See what I mean. He is as smooth as they come.

sebekm commented on Saturday, Mar 08, 2014 at 16:47 PM

Smooth, and - as the waiter said in Casablanca:

"As honest as the day is long..."

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