Finally – A Real GOP Alternative To ObamaCare
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Yes – those doofus Republicans have finally decided to take the air out of one of the most “valid arguments” (translation: talking points) the Democrats have had about the GOP’s criticism of ObamaCare – i.e., “What have THEY offered as an alternative? NOTHING!”

According to breaking news first revealed this morning on the CBS news program “Face The Nation,” the plan is for senior Republican senators to offer their plan for a conservative reform alternative to ObamaCare TOMORROW. Here is how the exchange went between Bill Kristol of The Weekly Standard and host Bob Schieffer of Face The Nation:

“Schieffer: "Bill, you actually have some news, I understand, because you've learned that the Republicans are going to, what, present an alternative to Obamacare?"

Kristol: "Yeah, I mean, Obamacare is, I think, really a disaster and not getting better. But the best talking point Democrats have had is, well, what would you do? Just go back to the status quo ante, which wasn't so great, people losing health insurance, at least allegedly, if they had pre-existing conditions, poor people having trouble getting health insurance? So I think I'm not supposed to be revealing this, but since you asked me, I guess I'll -- I just have to say it."

Kristol: "…(S)enior Republican senators tomorrow are going to lay out the outlines of legislation, which I think will become real legislation, that would be a conservative reform alternative to Obamacare. It would deal with the preexisting condition problem. It would have tax credits for the poor. It would get rid of all the ridiculous bureaucracy, regulation limitations of Obamacare. And I think it will -- this will be Senators Coburn, who, Senator Coburn of Oklahoma, who's retiring, very well respected; Senator Hatch, who is the ranking Republican on the Finance Committee, who will become chairman of Senate Finance next year if Republicans win the Senate; and Senator Burr, who's senior on the Health Committee.

Kristol: "So this is a serious piece of legislation. It could get, I think, pretty across the board support from Republican senators. There are some tweaks in it that there will be debates among Republicans and conservatives about how generous to be with the subsidies, with the tax credits and so forth. But I think it really will make it harder for the president and for Democrats to say the Republicans have no alternative."

Schieffer: "Will there be any chance that that could pass?"

Kristol: "If Republicans win the Senate in November, I think in 2015, you could imagine a Republican Senate and a Republican House passing this. The Republican House might even pass it this year. And, again, then it's up to the president whether he wants to abandon Obamacare and sign on to a sensible health care reform."

See: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/republicans-unveil-conservative-reform-obamacare-senate_775413.html

My take on this “news”: Better late than never.


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Funkentelecky commented on Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 05:47 AM

It's amazing how the lame stream media has so many people fooled that the Republicans have never had an alternative to Obamacare. From HR3400 in July 2009 which has transformed to HR2300 in 2013. Pelosi buried 3400 in committee and didn't allow it to the floor for vote. Does anyone out there care why?

timeontarget commented on Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:25 AM

The media has ceased to be the fourth estate and is little more than hollywood any more.

We suffer the consequence.

sebekm commented on Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 13:15 PM

Funky: the problem with the 2009 Republican "alternative" was that with the Dems controlling both the House AND the Senate at the time, everybody knew that there was no way any competing GOP health care bill was going to get a hearing in Congress, since everything was focused on what came to be known as ObamaCare. Remember, those were the days of "hope" and "change" and the excitement of the first black President and all that. So the Republican ideas on health care reform just got buried.

The other thing was that like Social Security, there was GREAT reluctance to tackle health care reform - especially in light of the beating the Dems took during Clinton's first term on HillaryCare. The only way any big changes were going to be enacted was for a party to have total control of the WH and Congress. So the circumstances existed for reform - the only problem is that the legislation was HUGELY flawed. It was ill-conceived and with the attitude of the Dems that "you had to pass it to know what was in it," it was a prescription for a fiasco. Anyone with any political savvy at all could see it coming a mile away. The Republicans predicted it, but the Dems didn't want to hear it and demonized them for it.

The effects of the demonization of the GOP is still being seen in recent polls where the Dems are viewed more favorably as far as "Congress" goes. The undecideds/independents are still learning what a screwed up deal in ObamaCare the Dems foisted on us. That learning is a slow process, but it IS occurring, and is being reflected in the national polls. Over the past month or so, most polls reflect support for ObamaCare at all-time lows:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epol...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/...

If these trends continue - no matter how the President or the Dems try to spin it - the November elections should vindicate the GOP as far as the only "national poll" that really matters. The are expected to hold - and even possibly make gains in the House. And the Dems are frantically trying to stave off a GOP take-over of the Senate, which even some of THEIR prognosticators say could happen.

sebekm commented on Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 16:33 PM

....and here it is:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2...

Here are the provisions:

*"Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Orrin Hatch of Utah say their proposal will rein in health premiums and expand coverage, without forcing the 85 percent of Americans who already have insurance to bear the cost of reform."

*"It would also scrap controversial mandates and taxes tied to the Affordable Care Act, allow Americans to keep health plans they like and return Medicaid to its core mission of helping the neediest mothers and children, aides said."

*"Federal and state-run health “exchanges” tied to Obamacare would be gone, too, unless states opt to set up a portal for their state’s residents."

*"The plan also eliminates Obamacare’s restrictions on how insurers may rate consumers and the law’s minimum coverage requirements, which recently caused millions of Americans to lose existing barebones coverage late last year."

*"However, the new plan does include a tax credit to help people in the individual market and those who work in small businesses of 100 employers of fewer pay for coverage. A new Office of Health Financing at the Treasury Department would oversee the credits."

*"The GOP plan would not scrap the ACA’s changes to Medicare, with aides saying they wanted to wall off that program for a broader debate and focus on the 65-and-under market."

*"(The GOP has) offered the plan as a blueprint rather than a bill, citing a need for discussion among both parties that was lacking before the president’s law passed in 2010 with Democratic majorities in both chambers of Congress. They also said the plan’s timeline would be realistic, with many of the reforms not taking root until 2016 or later."

To me - all of this is just "common sense" stuff that the supposed "experts" who crafted ObamaCare in the first place should have anticipated and incorporated into the ACA. If they had done that, it wouldn't have turned out to be the fiasco that it has.

At least now the Dems won't be able to say the GOP "doesn't have a plan." Plus - if the Republicans keep the House and gain the Senate - they will be in a better position to push their plan BEFORE 2016. Voters should also keep that in mind when they are at the ballot box in November.

JimmyMack commented on Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 18:19 PM

When the newly rebuilt Conservative Republican Party emerges intact...maybe... and viable from their internal Party Implosion, be able to bring back all the lives lost on all sides during the Bush Wars, after they repeal the ACA?

Can they do that too? That would be nice.

sebekm commented on Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 13:57 PM

Let's not forget that al Qaeda ATTACKED US - which triggered your "Bush Wars." Further, I'm sure you don't want me to repost my multi-part diatribe quoting just about every national Democrat in office at the time (and some who are now at the highest levels of the Obama administration) ENDORSING the "Bush Wars."

Every single human life is precious - even those who are murdered in the name of Roe v. Wade. Those four who lost their lives in the Benghazi fiasco are important as well. I say that when the Democrats can bring back the lives lost of those "who cares?" U.S. personnel who were murdered due to Obama administration miscalculation and inaction at Benghazi - then I'll look for the return of the lost lives of those who gave them in a justified defense of our country to bring justice to the 9/11 perpetrators.

As for ObamaCare (alias the ACA) and the GOP, it will soon be the focal issue in the November national elections. Why? Gone is the argument that the GOP doesn't have a real, viable, and executable alternative to ObamaCare. Soon immigration reform will be off the table; there will be no more government shut-downs (at least none this year); and the debt ceiling squabble should be concluded well before November. This will leave the following as the primary issue for most voters to consider at the ballot box: whether we want the fools who lied about doctors and health plans, and caused our insurance rates to be jacked up across the entire nation to remain in control of the U.S. Senate.

It should be interesting.

JimmyMack commented on Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 14:48 PM

@Sebe. I don't think we needed to commit to boots on the ground in order to fight Al Qaeda in Iraq nor Afghanistan. Strategic Air strikes, ship launched rockets, along with Special Ops woulda coulda been the way to go. After all, it was our Seals - Special Ops that got the number one terrorist in the World Bin-Laden. And we are still killing them.

Our Air Power worked in Bosnia-Serbia-Croatia-Macedonia. We stopped Milosovic's evil with little loss of life. No ground troops.

Saddam was not Al Qaeda. Was he evil? Yes. Was he already 'contained' via two thirds of Iraq being a no fly zone? Yes.
But, he could have been taken out without sending our men and women to die to accomplish that 'mission.'

BHO is proceeding as promised with a draw down of our soldiers being continually re-deployed to these areas.

ACA may or may not work. Time will tell. It can be changed or repealed. But lives lost in the Bush Wars cannot be brought back or repealed.

sebekm commented on Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 18:40 PM

Nor can the lives that have been lost during the Obama administration. This argument is silly.

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 21:33 PM

Well Sebe; we are a silly bunch then, aren't we?

sebekm commented on Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 21:37 PM

Yes We Are!


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