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NEW YORK (UPI) — Edward Snowden “deserves better” than exile because he did the United States a service by publicizing surveillance secrets, a New York Times editorial said.
Revelations about the scope of the National Security Agency’s monitoring programs prompted two Federal judges to accuse the agency of violating the U.S. Constitution and led a Presidential panel to issue a scathing indictment of the agency’s invasion of privacy and call for a major overhaul of its operations, the commentary published Wednesday said.
“Considering the enormous value of the information he has revealed, and the abuses he has exposed, Mr. Snowden deserves better than a life of permanent exile, fear and flight,” the commentary by The Times’ editorial board said. “He may have committed a crime to do so, but he has done his country a great service.”
Snowden, a former NSA contractor, has been granted temporarily asylum in Russia, “on the run from American charges of espionage and theft, and he faces the prospect of spending the rest of his life looking over his shoulder,” the editorial said.
“It is time for the United States to offer Mr. Snowden a plea bargain or some form of clemency that would allow him to return home, face at least substantially reduced punishment in light of his role as a whistle-blower, and have the hope of a life advocating for greater privacy and far stronger oversight of the runaway intelligence community,” the Times advocated.
Snowden has been charged with violating the Espionage Act and theft of government property.
The editorial said Snowden’s critics claim he did “profound damage” to U.S. intelligence operations but haven’t presented the “slightest proof that his disclosures really hurt the nation’s security.”
“When someone reveals that government officials have routinely and deliberately broken the law, that person should not face life in prison at the hands of the same government,” the commentary concluded. “That’s why Rick Ledgett, who leads the NSA’s task force on the Snowden leaks, recently told CBS News that he would consider amnesty if Mr. Snowden would stop any additional leaks. And it’s why President Obama should tell his aides to begin finding a way to end Mr. Snowden’s vilification and give him an incentive to return home.”


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timeontarget commented on Friday, Jan 03, 2014 at 07:33 AM

I found this on the web site of Personal Liberty Digest.

I think it deserves a bit of discussion and consideration.

Regardless of your position I would be interested in hearing your thoughts.

I think I am at least somewhat in agreement with the Times editorial on this issue.

Thomas Payne once said and I also believe that Thomas Jefferson also said "Government which governs least governs best."

Our government at all levels local, state and Federal and especially Federal is governing entirely too much.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jan 03, 2014 at 07:35 AM

Please spare us all a personal attack on Timeontarget if you find this to be distasteful.

Just simply state your position.

Thank you and forgive me if you are offended by the Times editorial.

JimmyMack commented on Friday, Jan 03, 2014 at 12:29 PM

HiI Tot. I think I saw where a judge the other day ruled against two people who said their personal rights were violated by the NSA in connection with a crime they did. Paraphrasing the judge, "the NSA is a legitimate counter punch to Terrorism and provides micro and macro intelligence to the U.S. government in the prevention and detection of those seeking to harm our citizens and our country."

In another article I read, it said that Snowden was more than just a 'whistle blower' he was much worse as he revealed the 'plumbing' to our enemies and others which SHOWED HOW THE US PERFORMED THIER OVERSIGHT. He showed them How we did it!!! He went beyond being just a whistle blower.

I personally think Snowden is a traitor. Much like Walker was with the Navy, and Hanson was with the FBI.

He deserves imprisonment, in my view, for betraying his country.

sebekm commented on Friday, Jan 03, 2014 at 12:39 PM

"Please spare us all a personal attack on Timeontarget if you find this to be distasteful."

I wouldn't think of it.

The NYT condemns the "exile" of Snowden using an "ends justifies the means" argument. I say that aiding and abetting our enemies is an act of treason. As for how Snowden's leaks have damaged our - and our allies' - national security, here's how British intelligence views the situation:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-uk-sp...

Further, when we as a society sanction an "ends justifies the means" argument, we are opening the door to all sorts of problems - both by the government and by individuals. And when we hail "a former Central Intelligence Agency employee and former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor" for breaking his oath of secrecy, we encourage everyone else who takes an oath ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME to conveniently forget it when it suits their purpose.

Snowden belongs in "exile." If he returns to the U.S. - one way or another - he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.


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