Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees
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Apparently the White House referred to Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees for the first time this year, which prompted CBS presenter, Ben Stein, to present this piece which I would like to share with you.

The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

My confession:
I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejewelled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a nativity scene, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events... terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.
Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.

If not, then just discard it.... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what a bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein

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Sheran commented on Monday, Nov 04, 2013 at 19:36 PM

Bill O'Reilly on this subject!

Sheran commented on Monday, Nov 04, 2013 at 19:43 PM

By the way! I say Merry Christmas to all store employees every year! I never once got the "LOOK" they always smile...

timeontarget commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:28 AM

"In light of recent events...terrorist attacks, school shootings etc. I think it started with Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK."

"Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves."

timeontarget commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:41 AM

"Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.' "

Above comments taken from CBS presenter Ben Stein who composed and recited them on the CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

timeontarget commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:55 AM

On December 15, 2012 Timeontarget commented on sebekm's blog Exixting Gun Control Again Proves Inadequate.

"When we let the liberals kick God out of the front door of the schools the Devil sneaked into the back door. The back door was opened by liberals"

I remain convinced that the liberals among us are responsible for the moral decay of the past several decades.

Having imposed their will on our culture they have brought about a society which is lacking of Godliness and love and kindness.

The liberals are responsible for the school shootings and embracing the ways of the Devil.

JimmyMack commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Ben Stein has long been an apologist for the Conservative right. He referred to Henry Kissenger and Nixon as "peace makers. He later wrote speeches for Gerald Ford. I am not saying Stein isn't a smart man or is not well studied. Much unlike the drop out status of your self Tot (aka Padrick). He is known to take advantage of any and all talking points presented him to spin into a ravaging of Liberals. He plays to the lower echelons of misinformed dolts, such as your self, Tot.

As far as Steins acting ability, I thought he was great in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. However, regarding his political commentary he is a misguided deceiver of those who harbor blame and hate in their hearts. Again, much like yourself Tot.

Satan is known as the Great Deceiver and is Steins mentor. You Tot, are a bitter angry old man that plays straight into the hands of both Stein and the Master of Deceit.

JimmyMack commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Right Wing misinformed and uneducated Conservatives such as you TOT, if left unchecked, eventually end up burning not just books of knowledge, but burning PEOPLE in ovens. Extreme Conservatism of which you embrace leads to the death of thought and reason.

You were just born in the wrong decade and the wrong Country.

sebekm commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 13:18 PM

If Obama gets the Nobel Peace Prize and can say "I'm really good at killing people," then Nixon and Kissinger were peacemakers. Here's another of many similarities between Nixon and Obama:

They both were elected based on campaign promises to get us out of war(s). Both significantly reduced troop strength in the "war zone(s)" during their presidencies. Neither one completely stopped the killing.

The basic blog post relates how Stein - as a Jew - views "Christmas" and the state of the world. He relates many causes and effects of societal and world problems that one political party in this country has chosen to ignore. Oh - they pay lip service and propose massive government solutions, but their misguided and misplaced priorities have driven this country to the depths we are in today.

Stein makes a very simple point: WE REAP WHAT WE SOW. This is NOT the same as "Blame America First." Nor is it stating some abstract that the misinformed or uneducated shouldn't be able to comprehend.

But they don't. And that's the real tragedy.

JimmyMack commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 15:34 PM

Yes Sebe. Stein very cleverly blends, Religion, Politics, Parental Responsibility, schools, cyber space, texting, technology, et. al. to justify his "observances" to lend credibility to cretins such as TOT to absorb and assume righteous justification for his and others hate. While also, it appears, it allows others to come to TOT's and other dolts like him, defense here on these pages. Those actions ENABLE TOT and other haters.

It is historically and FACTUALLY ludicrous to blame ONE Party and only ONE Political Party for the ills of society. Anyone that supports that view is a staunch propagandist, is brain damaged, or both.

That is the real tragedy.

sebekm commented on Tuesday, Nov 05, 2013 at 17:49 PM

Then I'm both, and proud of it. The Democrats continue to be the PROBLEM - rather than the solution.

JimmyMack commented on Wednesday, Nov 06, 2013 at 06:50 AM

So be it, my friend. We all must walk our individual path. I am content walking mine. I presume you and TOT are more than content walking y'all's.

JimmyMack commented on Wednesday, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:10 AM

Democrats won the Governership of Virginia yesterday. Also DEMOCRAT Kasim Reed, a big Obama supporter won the Mayor of Atlanta. MODERATE Republican Chris Christie won his state. So much for all those pictures of him standing with Obama.

Now...if only that Tea Party kook in Kentucky can win his Primary from Mitch McConnell....

sebekm commented on Wednesday, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I am content in walking my own path - yes 0 and I'll continue to call 'em as I see 'em.

It is your privilege to continue to try to change the subject and name-call. But when you do, you only show you have no real argument and - as always - name-callers always say more about themselves than they do about their targets.

JimmyMack commented on Wednesday, Nov 06, 2013 at 13:13 PM

Like you Sebe, I am ENTITLED to my opinion. I care not how you and Tot take umbrage from them. Nor do I care how you try to quantify them.

I like you Sebe. And I do not wish to fight with you.

Your misinformed buddy Tot, on the other hand, needs to have a net thrown over him, taken somewhere and studied.

Please educate me on the stages of Def-con. Is it not 1 to 5? With ONE being on the verge of a nuclear exchange? or does it go UP?

sebekm commented on Wednesday, Nov 06, 2013 at 15:52 PM

You are entitled to your opinion, but so is TOT. I don't see anybody beating up on you (or me) when our opinion's are the same. As you are a self-described liberal - presumably ascribing to all things in the liberal political spectrum - our (political) opinions are not likely to be the same too often. However - you and PolNat often share the same opinion. However, neither I nor anybody else around here calls either of you names or says you need to be taken somewhere and studied because you share the same opinion.

My point is - the opinions of TOT and I are probably closer in the political spectrum than yours and mine. Consequently, TOT and I are probably going to agree frequently; you and I less so - when it comes to politics. Consequently - when you insult TOT's intelligence over an opinion he and I share, you insult me as well.

I assume that you know this, and that it is your intent.

I just wanted you to know that's the way I take it.

JimmyMack commented on Wednesday, Nov 06, 2013 at 17:05 PM

Well Sebe, I did warn you of the danger of getting caught up in the cross fire between me and Tot a while back, did I not? You must have made a decision to ignore it. You are not going to be able to call me off on TOT. Only the webmeister can do that. I will do as he says, not you or anybody else.

As a committed Democrat, I, of course, am going to take issue with Conservative writing and talk. I make NO apologies for my words towards Conservatives. I dislike them as much or more than your growing dislike for me. I have yet to refer to them as Murderers of school children, tho.

You are known by the company you keep.

I am not trying to insult you. If you take it that way, then I would refer to it as unintended collateral damage. However, YOU are the one placing yourself in the line of fire.

Maybe we should call it 'friendly fire.'

sebekm commented on Wednesday, Nov 06, 2013 at 18:20 PM

I don't consider myself in the crossfire. I consider myself being criticized for sharing opinions with somebody you have referred to as your private "road kill." I will not be intimidated nor will I censor my opinions because they are consistent with somebody who you consider your "road kill." So insult on.

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Nov 07, 2013 at 07:56 AM

You are incorrect my friend. I have CLEARLY aimed my words at your buddy ToT and not at you.

YOu, Mike Sebek, have chosen to defend Tot. I have never asked you or anyone to censor their opinions.

You are playing the victim here Sebe. That is your choice. Not mine. Twist it any way you wish, but that Liberal Hating Monster Tot is going to have to take responsibility for HIS words.

I am sorry that you feel the need to defend him.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Nov 08, 2013 at 07:10 AM

"I have never asked you or anyone to censor their opinions."

Does that include Timeontarget.

Timeontarget just like everyone else who contributes to this community blog site has an opinion on most all subjects.

The Courier webmaster is allowing this stupidity to contribute to the decline in participation on this community blog site.

sebekm commented on Friday, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:36 PM

I am playing the "victim? How? You are the one who talked about "crossfires." You - Jimmy Darsey - have chosen to insult by associating my opinion with your "personal road kill." My opinion is my opinion, and I won't change it or censor it because you choose to associate it with somebody you find to be an easy target.

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Nov 09, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Not sure where the 'road kill' comes from. Sounds like words I might have used. I do remember referring to 'road kill' being made into an appealing pate to serve to unsuspecting Yankees driving thru the South.

I think Sebe, you are thinking of "the krill upon which I feed."

I ain't asking you to change your opinions. For the most part they provide insight and open up pathways to knowledge.

I DO find it interesting that you seem to be referring to TOT as an 'easy target.' What does that mean? Are you, his erudite knight in shining armor defender, laying down something between the lines regarding Tot's commentary ability? Have you become aware of something you wish to share about Tot the Toad?

I welcome your opinion here.

JimmyMack commented on Sunday, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Yes. What makes TOT an 'easy target?'

JimmyMack commented on Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Silence is Golden. Four Seasons circa 60's.

timeontarget commented on Wednesday, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM

I have not been able to post anything because our computer at home finally died.

It will probably be Thanksgiving or after before I'm able to get back to contributing because I don't normally get on this computer to participate in this community blog site.

I hope all of you enjoy the Thanksgiving and rejoice in harvest time.

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