More Lies From The Obama Administration
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From USATODAY.com:

"Report: W.H. knew plans would be canceled under ACA

Millions of Americans are getting their health insurance canceled under the Affordable Care Act and the Obama administration has known for about three years that this would happen, NBC News is reporting.

About 50% to 75% of 14 million consumers who buy health insurance individually will receive a "cancellation" letter or its equivalent in the next year because their current policies don't meet the standards laid out by the new law, the news organization reports, citing four sources deeply involved in ACA.

Of those who will be forced to buy new insurance, many will face huge price increases, NBC reports.

Initially, the administration stipulated that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010, could be "grandfathered" or kept even if they don't meet the requirements of the new law. Later, the Department of Health and Human Services wrote regulations that narrowed that provision to dictate that if any part of those policies, such as co-pay or benefits, had substantially changed since then, they would not longer be grandfathered in.

NBC alleges the administration knew that up to 67% of customers on the individual market could have their policies canceled, but instead, President Obama said as recently as in 2012, "If (you) already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance."

The White House told NBC that people whose policies will be canceled will, in most cases, be automatically shifted to plans with better protections.

"Nothing in the Affordable Care Act forces people out of their health plans," White House spokeswoman Jessica Santillo told the news organization.

White House spokesman Jay Carney acknowledged that some plans would not meet the new minimum standards and would "not qualify for the Affordable Care Act.""

See: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/10/28/affordable-care-act-cancellations/3293001/

Also - as reported in the National Review Online - and contrary to Nancy Pelosi's infamous claim that you had to enact ObamaCare to know what was in it - the Democrats KNEW when the legislation was being crafted that the President's contention that nobody would lose their current health care plan was a lie. See:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/362484/top-dem-admits-we-knew-jonathan-strong

Implied in the President's promise - because not once did he say otherwise - was that ObamaCare would not cause health care rates to rise for those who were supposedly not going to be affected by the legislation (i.e., NON-enrollees). ANOTHER after-the-fact untruth.

And a half-truth is also a LIE. Here's the latest example from the above:

"The White House told NBC that people whose policies will be canceled will, in most cases, be automatically shifted to plans with better protections."

Oh? "Automatically shifted? Not hardly. And at what cost? In most cases, HIGHER premiums and probably loss of their doctor of choice. My daughter is in this EXACT situation, and to get those "better protections" she has to pay MORE. The better the "protections" the MORE she has to pay. And to keep the plan she now has - she has to pay MORE.

The Obama administration knew this, too, when the President was selling ObamaCare in 2009. He sold it, and many Americans undoubtedly voted for him based upon this FRAUDULENT presentation in 2012. Lies perpetuate lies.

Obfuscate all you want about Republicans, the shut-down, etc., but ObamaCare will more directly and more adversely affect more Americans than any of the problems we've had over the past six months. I believe what most news and health analysts are now saying that the problems experienced thus far by millions of Americans are just "the tip of the iceberg" of what we're in for as this train wreck wreaks havoc on businesses, the health care community, the 85%, and the U.S. economy in general.

ObamaCare has been described as the President's "signature legislation." We're now finding out that millions of Americans would have been better off if the signature had been forged.


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PoliticsNation commented on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 13:38 PM

I can't wait until I'm off to respond to this misleading blog.

gacpl commented on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 16:26 PM

House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer conceded to reporters today that Democrats knew people would not be able to keep their current health care plans under Obamacare and expressed qualified contrition for President Obama’s repeated vows to the contrary.

“We knew that there would be some policies that would not qualify and therefore people would be required to get more extensive coverage,” Hoyer said in response to a question from National Review.

Asked by another reporter how repeated statements by Obama to the contrary weren’t “misleading,” Hoyer said “I don’t think the message was wrong. I think the message was accurate. It was not precise enough…[it] should have been caveated with – ‘assuming you have a policy that in fact does do what the bill is designed to do.’”

Hoyer noted that people losing access to their current plans are mostly in the individual market, which is a small segment of the overall market. He also argued that requiring those plans to follow new mandates and regulations was important for ensuring those plans included “adequate coverage so the public would not have to be on the hook for serious illnesses or other illnesses.”

gacpl commented on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 16:29 PM

even though the DEMs are starting to admit they knew they were telling lies about this. the Obamabots will still try to make excuse and/or change the subject rather then admit their savior lied from the get go.

gacpl commented on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 17:09 PM

CBS just reported it's now 2 million that have lost there insurance and they expect the number to keep climbing.

PoliticsNation commented on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 20:06 PM

If you had a plan that was dropped and not grandfathered in it's because your insurance company changed their plan after the health law was signed. Many insurance companies did so to take in as much as they could before the law fully went into effect. They either changed premium,networks, or deductible, etc. and it no longer could be grandfathered in. This is the fault of the insurance company, not the health law. They had a chance to keep plans as is or even offer it to new people, but they saw profit as more important.

For the record-The president disclosed this information in 2010...

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/...

gacpl commented on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 21:37 PM

President Obama said four things.

1) You can keep your plan
2) You can keep your doctor
3) Your premiums will go down on average 2,500
per year
4) The Government can run it efficiently.

---People are losing their health Insurance. 14 million people...5% is more than 0%.
---Doctors go with that. people are losing their doctors
---Premiums are going up.
---The system is crashing. People can't even sign up.

The IRS said in 2010 that over 10 million would lose their plan. They were right. Conservatives said it and warned all of us when Pres. Obama said it.

This is not a surprise and should not be a surprise to anyone.

Of course the left will simply blame the Insurance companies. They will forget that ACA caused all of it and caused this reaction from private Insurance. Amazingly it will be someone else's fault for the system they created.

I was suspect in 2010 when no Republican voted for this legislation. All major legislation in this country such as social security etc was passed in landslides. This one was not. It was red flag.

sebekm commented on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

This blog is not "misleading." The facts bear out that President Obama lied to the American people when he said "If you want your plan, you can keep you plan," "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." I HAVE PERSONAL FAMILY EXPERIENCE WHICH BACKS UP WHAT IS FLOODING THE MEDIA ON THESE LIES. My daughter can not "keep her plan." Her choice of doctors is significantly limited by Obamacare. She has to pay higher premiums because of ObamaCare.

gacpl has succinctly stated the facts. The only people who are now being misled are those who are still buying the Dem pablum; drinking their Kool-Aid; and selling their lies.

I'm looking forward to seeing Kathleen Sebelius on the griddle today. She is only a functionary and is now simply "following orders" of her superiors, but as a cabinet secretary she should have anticipated the problems and at least facilitated the smooth implementation of the web site.

ObamaCare is a train wreck. Dem Senator Max Baucus predicted this - and nobody in his party listened. The GOP and the Tea Party fought against it and the public is now seeing that they were correct. That's why Mr. Obama's job approval numbers are in the 40s and he's even with the Tea Party with registered voters.

sebekm commented on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

...but at least she is taking SOME responsibility for the roll-out:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/po...

But what I - and tens of millions of other Americans are waiting for - is an apology from the President for ObamaCare. (Obviously I won't hold my breath waiting for it.)

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Oct 31, 2013 at 14:13 PM

What are Congress' poll numbers?

sebekm commented on Thursday, Oct 31, 2013 at 15:34 PM

As I mentioned in my other blog post:

"In the dumper. But WE THE PEOPLE can't (and won't) fire everybody. As I said in one of my earlier posts - most who want to "throw the bums out" are really saying "throw the other guy's bum out." But as we all know:

*The issue which is in focus now is ObamaCare.

*The issue which now is making a lot of people mad is ObamaCare.

*The Democrats are the party which OWNS ObamaCare.

*The Republicans/Tea Party are the ones who have been fighting AGAINST ObamaCare since its proposal back when.

*As evidenced by the poll numbers I reported (in a prior blog): “OVERWHELMING MAJORITES OF MAINSTREAM VOTERS IDENTIFY MORE WITH THE AVERAGE TEA PARTY MEMBER THAN WITH EITHER THE PRESIDENT OR THE AVERAGE MEMBER OF CONGRESS.”

The difference will come at election time from independents and so-called "swing voters." These are the people who aren't drinking anybody's Kool-Aid, and were persuaded to vote for Obama due to his charisma and his promise of change. What they have found out is that not only didn't we get "change," the status quo got WORSE with more corruption and cronyism, PLUS the country is now more racially divided than it has ever been. These are the people who are going to rise up and strike down those who they perceive are more at fault with the problems that are hitting them squarely in their pocketbooks and their household budgets. Remember, the President and many incumbents only won the popular vote by a few percentage points. I predict that enough independents/swing voters will be mad enough to keep the Republicans in control of the House, and perhaps even put them in control of the Senate.

That would REALLY make Mr. Obama's last two "lame duck" years the pits."


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