Shucks Sebe, Peggy Noonan!!! Are you kidding me man?!! Though she survived the Ronald Reagan Republican Iran-Contra Scandal of 1986, while writing speeches and providing him with talking points re Iran Contra, she was the one generally responsible for Ronny's 'forgetfulness' and thus giving him 'plausible deniability'. She has had an axe to grind ever since towards Dems.
You wanna talk SCANDAL: Iran Contra resulted in 14 INDICTMENTS within Reagan's STAFF AND A WHOPPING 11 CONVICTIONS!!!
Nothing in the Obama 'scandal' approaches now or later such proportions of wrong doing. Peggy Noonan is an erudite wordsmith whose main distinction is not going to jail with her co-conspirators in Iran Contra.
High ranking government officials and possibly the president himself using the IRS to target people and groups politically is one of the most flagrant abuses of power in the history of our country. I have commented on this very little, because in reality, I thought it was more "politics" than anything else, at first. But as more information comes out it is becoming clear that major abuses of power did appear to take place.
Jimmy: When you can't argue facts you attack the messenger. Peggy Noonan has been - and continues to be - one of the more astute political commentators in the media. She has repeatedly proven to be on point with her political analysis and commentary. But here she is reporting the FACTS. So if anybody has dementia, it is those who bury their heads in the sand in hopes that this problem will just go away.
It won't go away.
MLC: This is EXACTLY the way Watergate unfolded. The movie "All The President's Men" does a great job of encapsulating the way that scandal unraveled, and how a very small portion of the media and public at large believed the story at the outset - until it snowballed as WoodStein dug out the facts.
To me, the cover story that there was "no story" particularly smacked of Watergate. PLUS - what does a first term administration want more than anything else? A second term. National politics is ruthless - and the ins generally will do whatever they can get away with to perpetuate and increase their hold on power. So the motive, means and opportunity was available.
As more of the facts come out, I predict that this case will be shown to be one where key personnel in the Obama administration (to include political appointees and career civil servants sympathetic to the adminitration) deliberately targeted conservative groups with intent to deny them federal funding and provide significant advantage to those favorable to the administration in the 2010 and 2012 national and local elections. The GOP hasn't done a particularly good job in explaining the significance of this - IMHO. Hopefully they will continue to push the message as involvement by the higher-ups is revealed.
She is a tainted messenger Sebe. I ain't denying she gets on Face the Nation, Meet the Press and other such shows while writing for the Wall Street Journal. She has a mountain of journalistic street creds.
But where Conservative Republican and Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnel FAILED at "making Obama a one term President" which he promised to do BEFORE Obama took office, Ms. Noonan is just as partisanly tainted in ruining BHO via the pen and not on the Senate Floor.
It is amazing that anytime the Obama administration is caught in a bad situation President Reagan and President Bush are brought up. It's like saying because they made mistakes or bad judgements that the Obama administration gets a pass. Two wrongs don't make a right matter how its spun.
It is done wayne44 because it provides a certain perverted measuring stick as to what legitimately and\or legally rises to the level high crimes and misdemeanors or is just plain partisan politics. Each Administration it seems has it's "scandal" to deal with. That's just the way it is.
What is necessary to point out if only here on these pages is that this tri-fecta of "scandals" regarding BHO is nothing more than Partisan hype and does not rise to the Nixonian levels of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Yes, Jimmy - I agree: It IS a "perverted measuring stick." The Obama scandals ARE NOT "partisan hype." There is acknowledged wrongdoing in all of the tri-fecta scandals, the extent of which has yet to be fully revealed.
As to "tainted messengers," Jimmy: THEY ALL ARE - when they are reviewed by their opponents. I have read Noonan for years and she reports facts honestly, and adds her opinions, which all pundits do. But the thrust of her article that I've quoted are FACTS - events that have transpired in IRS-gate that form the basis for a greater understanding of the scope of the wrongdoing that is being disclosed here.
Watergate was defended by Nixon's supporters in 1972 and 1973 EXACTLY the same way as the Obama administration is defending the current scandals plagueing the President. That's what I see. I also see the same drip, drip, drip as the opposition pulls out more and more evidence of wrongdoing and the involvement moves higher up the chain. There is still no evidence of direct involvement by the President or his closest circle of advisers, but we now have the activities in this scandal reaching one of two political appointees of the President in Washington, D.C.
Sounds like a "cancer" growing to me...
I know Sebe. But, I'm a bettin' my chips that they all will die on the vine. WE are soon to be at mid-term elections, immigration reform is important to BOTH sides, all this Republican Congress has done is pass 33 bills canceling Obamacare. They are at danger of imploding due to voting demographics and their own Tea Party, and in a practical and very real sence...do you think they will vigorously pursue the impeachment of America's First Black President??!! Considering where we are now at on Race Relations and with all the many Al's, Jessee's et. al. out there this tri-fecta is destined for vine death.
No impeachment. But ObamaCare may die on the vine. I think it's only a matter of time, but I could be wrong. As to the scandals, remember that Watergate took more than 2 years to come to fruition, and the constant creep toward the White House in IRS-Gate reminds me of that. The key question is: why would the Democrats do it?
The answer is: to gain a bigger advantage over the Republicans in election and reelection operations. Remember - this one is about denying tea party and conservative groups federal funds and tax-exempt status - which was quickly given to the liberal groups - so that they couldn't run their campaign operations as well as the operation. THAT SMACKS OF THE "DIRTY TRICKS" THAT MADE THE NIXON CREW FAMOUS. You don't have to have a "smoking gun" where the President says "go do this" - the simple understanding that it was being done and everybody up the line looks the other way is enough to enable complicity in wrongdoing.
It's harder to ferret out the facts and prove this scenario, but the investigation is on track and the drip, drip, drip is heading UP.
Well Sebe, you may turn out to be correct, and this won't be the first time I bet the House and Lost, but...as I keep saying...It's a new world Charlie Brown. News is 24\7, there is a new headline EVERYDAY; Trayvon, tsunamis, volcanoes, cruise ship foul ups, 10 year kidnap victims discovered, NSA leaks, Doma defeat, gay marriages, marijuana legalization,....throw all that in with a do-nothing Congress that keeps giving itself pay raises in the faces of their constituents while only fighting Obama Care etc...AND then they decide to 'front burner' investigations of BHO and you've got a Republican SUICIDE of Biblical proportions.
Like I said, I've bet the House before and lost. However, I am going ALL IN for
The Big Heartbreak: Vine Death for the tri-fecta, on this one.
Feel free to claim my chips if I am wrong.
I go back to Benghazi. If that wasn't a crime it was at least a failure of leadership and total incompetence on the part of the Obama administration. 4 people dying because of those reasons certainly shouldn't let this administration off the hook. Where is the Partisan hype? Doesn't the American people and the families of those who died deserve to know exactly why no aid was dispatched during the 7 hour attack?
Great Post Chief and very informative comments by all contributing bloggers.
JM, just to set the record straight McConnell didn't issue the 1 term threat until BHO deserved it after March 23, 2010 :D
wayne44: Benghazi is the other elephant in the room. What the Dems fear the most is that it will be shown that it was a failure of MRS. CLINTON'S LEADERSHIP that contributed to the deaths of our people over there. They are frantically working to insulate her from any aspect of this conclusion - despite the fact that the incident happened on her watch and that she SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE "TO TAKE THAT CALL AT 3 0'CLOCK IN THE MORNING" (as her campaign spot in 2008 suggested when she was running against candidate Obama in the Democratic primaries).
You are right about when Mc Connell said he wanted to make Obama a one term president. My bad.
However the more important point to be made is that he put defeating Obama AHEAD of all the other issues facing America.
McConnelll is a hate monger of the Jesse Helms mode.
Just because somebody wants to defeat President Obama doesn't make them a "hate monger." There are plenty of people who believe that President Obama and his policies and priorities are THE most important issues facing America - as in they are really BAD for this country. I can remember that was the case from 2000 - 2008 when the Democrats were pounding Dubya, his priorities and his policies. His "lies" where "people died" was the rallying cry from the left - along with their characterization of Bush as a piece of slime, stupid, ignorant, crooked, incompetent, lazy, a liar, and all the rest.
If McConnell is a "hate monger," then so are all of the Democrats who heaped it all on Dubya. I see total parity in the actions on both sides. Just because one President was white and the other was black shouldn't automatically trigger the race card when somebody criticizes President Obama. The Dems want to have it both ways here - as in total insulation of the President from criticism by attributing any negativity to racism. I don't buy it. IMHO - a whole bunch of the President's domestic policies are wrecking this country. I don't care whether he is black or white. I would criticize him either way.
Jesse Helms once stated from the well of the Senate Floor, "that he did not know how safe it would be for President Clinton if he visited North Carolina."
Can you imagine a sitting Senator indicating that the safety of the President of the United States might be jeopardized if he visited his state??!
Jesse Helms was a Republican Party hate monger of the highest order. And Mitch McConnell is of the same cloth.
It's partisan hate directed towards any and all Democrats be they be black or white or female gender.
I'm no fan of Jesse Helms, but there are just as many "hate mongers" in the Democratic party as in the Republican party - by your definition.