This will play out. The deeper question is there different standards associated with guilt or innocence within the criminal justice system as it relates to Blacks AND Whites?
Where are our prolific Black Conservative blog posters on this subject?
Is it really all about the dollar my right wing friends?
JM, did you forget about this fact about blacks within the criminal justice system, as stated by Larry Elder from “Obama will make blacks vote Republican” Five years into his presidency, Obama has picked up and dropped down the race card more times than a three-card Monte hustler on the street corner. When a black Harvard professor irresponsibly accused a Cambridge, Mass., police officer of racial profiling, Obama sided with the professor, saying, "The Cambridge police acted stupidly." Obama could have started a discussion about the false assumption that widespread racism remains within the criminal justice system. He could have cited a 1999 Justice Department study that found that, no, a black criminal is not punished more harshly than a while defendant with an identical background and record.
George Zimmerman, a "white-Hispanic" Florida neighborhood watch volunteer, shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old. Before one word of testimony, Obama irresponsibly weighed in by suggesting that Martin's death was motivated by race. "If I had a son," said Obama, "he would look like Trayvon." Hint, hint: Travyon Martin was racially profiled.
Obama even thinks the tea party is racist.
just looking for insight to where everyone got their information to see if it made a difference in their opinion of the trial. for those who put all of the above, did you also mean you watched the actual trial?
I watched a lot of the trial, I watched CNN, MSNBC, some FOX , Piers Morgan, Read articles on the internet, and read the news paper.
From watching the different news channels and reading reports on the net, it is amazing the difference in reporting. I don't remember which stations, but all of them would report bits and pieces different. Like for instance, showing the photos of the two of them. Reporting how Martin was "walking" home. Reporting on how and what Zimmerman was doing.
The whole incident is tainted one way or the other, depending on what you watch or read. I do think the news media sensationalize a lot and twists, leaves parts out, or reads into, just for viewer ship and ratings.
I did not want to follow the case but it was almost impossible because it was on every news outlet including the local news everyday.
Don't forget about how NBC News deceptively edited audio from Zimmerman’s 911 call, which was played on the Today Show.
NBC News says it was just a mistake and that they fired the producer responsible, but they won’t say who it was or why it happened. We’re just supposed to take their word for it that they’re sorry we’re offended, and that it won’t happen again.
Funk my friend, you are avoiding my question. Please refer to PN's blog: Black Males Denied the Right to be Young and my post there. I am asking a very simple question that you and others are trying to avoid and obfuscate. Do Black Males receive the same Justice as White Males within our criminal justice system? This is not about BHO, Larry Elder, Democrats, Republicans, the Tea Party, Sean Hannity focus groups and all the other inanities thrown up here to dodge answering this simple question. I wan to know what is in YOUR heart Funk.
It is a very simple question.
one thing i have noticed from people i know from off the net. it's consistent that those who did not watch the whole trial think he should have been found guilty and those that did watch it for themselves agree with the jury.
I don't think he can, that would be double jeopardy and set a bad precedent. It s possible (however unlikely) he could be charged with Civil Rights Violation because it is not in state court but federal court.
even with wrongful death, it still would have been self defense seen even thou he might have followed him, which is not illegal, martin attacked him, which is illegal. if martin just went on his way and not went back for Zimmerman it wouldn't have happened.
the only way it would have been wrongful death is if he shot at martin and missed, and killed someone else.
I was there- outside the court house in Sanford Florida....I spent the weekend in Sanford and Orlando... The verdict has brought people together and laws will be changed.
even if they change the stand your ground law, it wouldn't have mattered. it was defended on the grounds of self defense.
Juror B37 reported that stand your ground played a part in their decision. It may not have been introduced into the court but they were aware it was a talking point for the defense. This case actually shed light on several cases involving the stand your ground law.
the syg law says you don't have to try to retreat. in self defense you are in a position where retreating is not a option. like being pined down on the ground. if zimmerman was not pined to the ground and he was threatened under self defense laws he would have to try to leave. under stand your ground you don't have to try to leave.
If Zimmerman had not profiled Trayvon Martin, and continued to follow him, Trayvon would have been alive today.
if travon wasn't high on drugs he wouldn't have looked suspicious enough to have been followed. but if you want to back it up even further, if he hadn't been so bad that his own mom didn't kick him out of her house he wouldn't have been there either.
If George Zimmerman didn't profile kill this unarmed teen, he would not become a fugitive from himself right now. Lets see where this acquittal and the SYG gets him? He is free, but is he really? We all know that George, and his family can not and will not be seen in the public as the result of a degenerate, imbecile, stupid wanna be cop who by the way, has a criminal record. Yes Criminal with guns. George Zimmerman that is.
he will be in hiding for a few years due to the feral animals that don't believe in the rule of law. then he will fade in everyone memory as sharpton finds someone else to exploit for their own personal profit.
In case you don't know, The DOJ has taken Zimmerman's Firearm along with other evidence in the official opening of this investigation. One way or another, Justice will take it's course for George Zimmerman.
They may have his gun, but it appears that Zimmerman is about to get a new one:
I can't tell from your post whether you checked out the link, but he's not going to buy a replacement himself - somebody else has volunteered to buy one for him.
in case you didn't follow the whole story on his gun. the doj does not have it nor have they even requested it. they asked the locals to not release it back to him right away. they want to look into it again. the fbi already did a full investigation in the beginning for civil rights violations and found nothing. they interviewed 39 people and could not find one person who would say he was even slightly raciest.
Bottom line is that Zimmerman can't get his firearm at this point. So spin it anywahere you want. I know that the DOJ request the Local Law Enforcement to hold that firearm, along with other evidence for further investigation.
Not giving back the gun right away - especially when they lose a case - is a typical prosecutor's office tactic. They just don't want to seem too quick to return an instrument of death to the person who pulled the trigger. Zimmerman should eventually get his gun back. I suggest he get rid of it - pawn it, whatever, through a third party so that it gains no notoriety or escalated value due to its use against Trayvon Martin.
Then Zimmerman can file for a writ of replevin and get it back if he strongly feels that he deserves his firearm back. I would without any hesittion after being acquitted of said charges.
The prosecutor's office will still drag their feet in giving it back. It's like a little kid who takes his bat and ball home when he's not happy with the way the game has gone. It's childish, but I've seen it many times.
Well if he files that writ. The judge will issue the order and whom ever is in pissession of the property must surrender the property to its rightful owner.