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Why did the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman case become a national obsession?
After all, about 14,000 murders take place every year in America. In just one city, Chicago, President Barack Obama’s adopted hometown, murders are on pace to reach around 400, down 27 percent from last year but on par with 2011. In 2012, only 26 percent of homicides were “cleared,” meaning the case was closed, with or without the killer being arrested or charged.
That Martin, a black person, was killed by Zimmerman, described as a white Hispanic, is rare. Most homicides are same-race crimes. Most black killers kill other blacks. Most white killers kill other whites.
So why this case?
For many, Martin’s death illustrates how young black men are unfairly “profiled” by cops, security officers and society in general. The unfair criminal stereotype of black men, they say, results in false arrests.
But in the end, the Zimmerman trial is a he-said/he’s-dead case. The only person who was there tells a far different story. Zimmerman had a swollen, if not broken, nose, cuts on the back of his head, and black eyes. The defense argues that this shows Zimmerman, in fear for his life or serious bodily injury, defended himself by shooting and killing Martin.
Defense witnesses, who came across as credible, have refuted every witness for the prosecution.
Was it Trayvon Martin’s voice on the 911 tape, screaming for help, relevant in trying to determine who started the fight? Or was the voice that of Zimmerman, a man in reasonable fear of death or serious injury? Audio experts came to different conclusions, so the judge disallowed any audio expert testimony.
Martin’s mother said the voice was her son’s. Zimmerman’s mother said the voice was her son’s. Martin’s father said the voice was his son’s, but admitted that at first he did not recognize the voice as belonging to Trayvon. Testimony was given by Zimmerman’s friends, including one who saw combat in Vietnam. The vet said he’d heard men screaming on the battlefield. Knowing Zimmerman’s voice and having heard how people sound under extreme stress, he could confidently say the voice belonged to Zimmerman.
The most important witness was Trayvon’s friend, the young lady he was speaking to on his cellphone shortly before he was shot. The prosecution needed her to establish that Zimmerman was the aggressor, and that Trayvon felt stalked and threatened.
Rachel Jeantel, a 19-year-old high school senior, said Trayvon told her that a “creepy-ass cracker” was following him. She said he also referred to Zimmerman as a “n--ger.”
Doesn’t this, suggested the defense, show that Martin was the one doing the racial profiling, a teenager with a chip on his shoulder, spoiling for a fight? No, said Rachel. Neither “cracker” nor the “n” word is a “racial comment.” Both words, she said, are simply descriptive race-neutral words.
Really? So had Zimmerman used the “n” word to describe Martin in his police call, this would have been a non-event?
Rachel damaged the prosecution in another big way. She testified that Trayvon shouted at Zimmerman, “Get off, get off!” But after the killing, Rachel wrote a letter to Trayvon’s mother in which she describes what happened. Her letter says nothing about “Get off, get off.” Pretty major thing to omit.
The prosecution offered five prior examples where Zimmerman called to report suspicious activity -- all of them involving a black person. Therefore what? Zimmerman -- described at first as white and Jewish, and later as a white Hispanic -- should only call about suspicious non-blacks?
Under Florida law, the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this “wannabe cop” murdered Travyon Martin with a “depraved mind.” It hasn’t come close to meeting its burden of proof.
As for “racial profiling,” it is an unfortunate fact that a disproportionately large amount of crime is committed by less than 5 percent of the population -- the percentage of black males 16 years of age and older in America. For its National Crime Victimization Survey, the FBI collects data from victims, asking the perceived race of their assailant. Twenty-four percent of all violent crime victims say the perp was a black person. And about the same percentage of those arrested for violent crimes are, in fact, blacks.
Are innocent people being routinely arrested and charged?
For years, major police departments have required officers to record the race of every person they stop, including in cities like Los Angeles, Chicago and New York. Where are the class-action lawsuits alleging a pattern and practice of racial profiling? Surely this data ought to out these racists cops who target innocent, law-abiding blacks.
Tragically, an unarmed teenager, returning from a convenience store with Skittles and iced tea, is dead. Understandably, many people want someone held responsible. This does not, however, make Zimmerman a criminal, let along a racist wannabe cop who profiled and murdered an innocent black 17-year-old.


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SportsFan31313 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:13 AM

Funk,

If the shooting of an unarm kid does not make it criminal, then this is a travesty. This was every bit of manslaughter that he should have been convicted of. But that just goes to show that where the old south may have died, but now you have a new south that may have gotten a littke more sophisticated with racial bias yet just as bad and as volatile and as dangerous the old south.
What makes this stand out more is that these days Black Anericans are no longer afraid and they speak out for what they believe in. Even it neans incarceration. Black Americans are no longer being a door mat fhose who still have that old relic mentality of riding in the back of the bus,
Entering through the rear of the resturant and etc.
Listening to Juror #37 speak negativeky about the 19 year old witness pissed me the f--- off. It's anazing how condescending she belittle this young girl because of her enunciation of words, and calling her uneducated. She stated that there were two jurors whi voted for manslaughter, and one for 2nd degree murder. She on the other hand went in wirh her mind already made that Zimmerman was innocent. She in my opinion is probably wasva stealth juror. I don't know what happened in that jury room thstvwas suddenly change three jurirs mind and then render a unanimous decision for acquittal. But I would love to hear from those three jurors originall voted to convict Zimmerman.

SportsFan31313 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:14 AM

Pardon the typos.

golfnut31316 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:12 PM

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twana 13 hours ago 270 3.9k
I am African American and I honestly can't choose a side because I wasn't there. I just wish he'd just shot him in the leg or something instead of in the chest if he had to shoot at all. I'm so sick of all the drama over this case. If its over, let it be over and let us all find some peace. Stop being mean to one another and realize that all of us no matter what the color of our skin are human beings and that all of our lives are valuable.
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SportsFan31313 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:34 PM

He should have been shot at all. He should have followed him even after being advised. He should not have profiled him. There are a lot of things George Zimmerman should not have done, be he did. As a result, he shot, and killed a unarmed teenager. That is what the reality of it all resulted in.

SportsFan31313 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:35 PM

He should not have been shot at all....

SportsFan31313 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:36 PM

He should not have followed him after being advised not to.

gacpl commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 14:20 PM

it was advice, not a order. how about travon should have went straight to where he was going to. it's 10 minutes from the store that he went to where he was going. he was shot 40 minutes later. how about he should have called 911 instead of his girlfriend if he thought he was a risk to him. if he did call 911, they could have straightened it out with no confrontation. but you can also say he wouldn't have been there if his own mother kicked him out her house. it goes on and on. i did watch the trial.

gacpl commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 14:25 PM

you also have heard that zimmerman had a past with the police dept. but not why. in jan 2011 the son of a white police officer beat a black homeless man to death. the police tried to cover it up. where was jessie or sharpton then? george zimmerman led the push to not let it go. it ended up with resignation of chief brian tooley. everyone commenting about what happened really needs to watch the real trial, not thee news story of it.

SportsFan31313 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 16:01 PM

gacpl,

You know I have read your blogs, and I have stomach some of your racey comments. But you are so out of touch. You seem to be stuck on this 911 call and advice for some reason. Zimmerman was advised and he did'nt adhere to it. because of that, we have a teenager that was killed, and you seem to be okay with that. The point is Trayvon committed no crime and he is dead. Don't you get it?

I don't give a rats ass what Trayvon has done in school or at the privacy of his home. Fact is, this teenager was walking in this gated community minding his own business when he was shot and killed by George Zimmerman. Get that!!

Dont get on here and say what Trayvon Martin should have done. This is a free country and this kid had the right to go where ever he damn please as long as he is not committing any crimes. This is exactly what he was doing until he was profiled, shot and killed by George Zimmerman. A kid has died for no reason and yet you are on here making excuses for Zimmerman or appear to be defending Zimmerman stating what Trayvon Martin should have done.

Second, what in the heck does this White Police officer being beat by a black homesles man to death and the Police tried to cover it up has to do with the Death Of Trayvon Martin at the hands of George Zimmerman?

golfnut31316 commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 17:18 PM

"I don't give a rats ass what Trayvon has done in school or at the privacy of his home. Fact is, this teenager was walking in this gated community minding his own business when he was shot and killed by George Zimmerman. Get that!!"

WRONG.

At the time he was shot, he was on top of Zimmerman beating him, proved by the court from a witness.

Your statement makes it sound like Zimmerman just walked up to him and shot him.

sebekm commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 18:16 PM

The FBI investigation disclosed no evidence of racial motivation or profiling on the part of Zimmerman.

gacpl commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 18:56 PM

sports fan, he was on drugs, the toxicology proved it. so he was committing a crime. also, travon was not walking down the street like the news tred to make it sound like, he was walking up to houses like he was casing them, there was another witness to that. when zimmerman lost him, travon could have just went to where he was going. instead he attacked zimmerman. there was also another eyewitness to the end of the fight. not someone who heard it, but someone who seen it with there own two eyes.

Funkentelecky commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 21:26 PM

Since America and the south is so racist, can anyone explain to me why parents of black teenagers are not encouraging and teaching them to get away from danger instead of confronting it. From all the evidence and 911 calls presented it is quite clear that Trayvon Martin had the opportunity evade George Zimmerman; therefore save himself from this trajedy too. This unique trait is called personal responsibility. My point being that you can't depend on Leviathan, or anyone else to take care of you; it has to be done for yourself and by you.

Funkentelecky commented on Tuesday, Jul 16, 2013 at 22:26 PM

Here’s Larry Elder breaking down the case before the acquittal and sharing his experiences as certified law clerk and ultimately becoming a judge and talk show host. He is also the judge from the syndicated show “Moral Court”

http://www.larryelder.com/

golfnut31316 commented on Wednesday, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:07 AM

Funk,

I agree with you 100%. I will also add that white teens aren't any better. The teens of today have no respect for elders, authority, and even their own parents.

This all starts at home and it is missing.

SportsFan31313 commented on Wednesday, Jul 17, 2013 at 18:05 PM

"sports fan, he was on drugs, the toxicology proved it. so he was committing a crime. also, travon was not walking down the street like the news tred to make it sound like, he was walking up to houses like he was casing them, there was another witness to that. when zimmerman lost him, travon could have just went to where he was going. instead he attacked zimmerman. there was also another eyewitness to the end of the fight. not someone who heard it, but someone who seen it with there own two eyes."

There you go again. Whether Trayvon was under the influence of drugs. Well let me address that. It was stated by toxicolgy report that Trayvon had THC in his system. Do you know what THC is? It is marijuana. Do you know what effects marijuana gives? It makes you laugh and hungry. It is a scheduule one drug. Do you know what a schedule one drug mean? Thats neighter hear nor there. It a spin to flip the script and make George Zimmerman the victim. But no one is fooled by this especially the community of Sanford Florida.

As far as you stated that Trayvon was walking up as if he was casing up houses. That is not just a lie but a damned lie. Again, This kid had every right to walk freely where ever he want to walk as long as he was not committing a crime. Don't geton here telling what Trayvon Martin should have done here. It's what George Zimmerman that you should say who should have done. He should have stayed in his car. Even Juror B37 stated this.

Martin was profiled and that's a fact. Now as a result people lives are ruined. Especially George Zimmerman. Zimmerman will forever be a fugitive from himself, and always on the run all the days of his natural life. Imagine yiourself always Thinking someone is going to try to kill me everyday you wake up.

Funkentelecky commented on Wednesday, Jul 17, 2013 at 21:49 PM

SF3, what about my last two posts?

SportsFan31313 commented on Thursday, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:13 AM

Yes I read it. And?

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Jul 18, 2013 at 16:57 PM

"Since America and the south is so racist, can anyone explain to me why parents of black teenagers are not encouraging and teaching them to get away from danger instead of confronting it." ...asks my learned friend Funk.

Well Funk, I be white. But I will make a deal with you. If you will opine as to the disposition of justice in the criminal justice system as it relates to Black Males as opposed to White males, and whether in your opinion that both groups get the same treatment,,, I will give you my opinion of Black Parenting.

What say you?

SportsFan31313 commented on Wednesday, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Well Jimmy,

I don't if I would lable it as parents of black trenagers are not encouraging them to get away from danger. I believe all parents love their kids. It may nit be the way you ecoect it should be, but I believe ALL parents, of all races teach their kids to steer away from danger. We all do atvtomes smother our children trying to kerp them safe and awY from any type of harm. But it doesnt always work. Children of all races have been in dangerous situations at one point in their life. It doesn't mean that the parents are not teaching them right from wrong,. I bet there was a time in your life when you was a teenager, your parents especially Mom told you not to go to certain place for the reason being that it was not a good place to go. But I bet you went anyway right? We All have disobeyed our parents at one time or another. We were kids back then, and kuds want to see for themselves. When they experience that there are consequences for their actions, they learn from it and not do it again. At least I hope.


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