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Ludowici At It Again
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I recently read in the wonderful Ludowici News Paper that the Chief of Ludowici, James Rogers is now certified. Well for the good citizens of Ludowici, I just want you to know the truth. James Rogers is not a certified Chief of Police. He did attend Chief of Police School but is not a certified Chief of Police. He has yet to attend the police academy and therefore has no more arrest powers as you or I. Just to make it clear, it is against the law to even represent yourself as a Chief of Police or a police officer. He can represent as the Chief Executive Officer with out any arrest powers. But as usual, in Ludowici I guess the law doesn't matter.

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mountain commented on Friday, Jun 07, 2013 at 13:28 PM

guardianangel has chosen to hide his/her profile from other users.

up2sumptin commented on Friday, Jun 07, 2013 at 14:50 PM

Qualifications for Chief of Police in the state of GA: Ten years of increasingly responsible law enforcement (including three years of management and supervisory responsibility) or a combination of ten years of law enforcement and relevant education. In accordance with O.C.G.A. §35-1-12, must be a certified peace officer with the State of Georgia. Must possess or be able to obtain a Managerial Certificate issued by the Georgia P.O.S.T. Council.

As a condition of employment, applicants should be prepared for a comprehensive background investigation that includes:

in-depth background investigation
fingerprint/criminal history check via GCIC and NCIC;
driver’s license check via DMVS;
psychological exam
polygraph exam;
credit history check;
drug and alcohol screening;
medical exam;
oral interview; and
a complete review of all POST records

guardianangel commented on Friday, Jun 07, 2013 at 17:32 PM

A person with this qualification would be a great candidate for Chief of Police. At one time there was a Chief that match those qualifications...But not any more.

up2sumptin commented on Friday, Jun 07, 2013 at 21:13 PM

To be hired, he must be approved by GCIC.

CasualObserver commented on Saturday, Jun 08, 2013 at 05:43 AM

Sorry to correct you up2sumptin but those qualifications maybe required by some agencies but Georgia Code as Annotated 35-1-12 only requires the following: Any county, municipality, or other public subdivision of this state which has a law enforcement agency shall declare a chief of police or a law enforcement head for such law enforcement agency who is required to be a certified peace officer pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 8 of this title, known as the "Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Act." The provisions of this Code section shall not apply to sheriffs.

As long as the inidividual is a certified peace officer the governing entity can select anyone they want to.

up2sumptin commented on Saturday, Jun 08, 2013 at 15:12 PM

Thank you for the clarification CO.

guardianangel commented on Sunday, Jun 09, 2013 at 14:36 PM

I appreciate the clarification on what makes up a Chief Of Police. Ludowici Police Department still does not have a certified police chief. By the city Charter, which Mayor Fuller throws in everyone's face when it betters him, states they will have a Chief Of Police over the police department. When will he adhere to it?

mountain commented on Sunday, Jun 09, 2013 at 20:37 PM

I thought James Rogers was a Police Officer or Investgator in Liberty County for the past 20 years or so.

P.S. If you are going to blog about someone you should at least have the NUTS to not hide behind a profile.

PoliticsNation commented on Monday, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:54 AM

I understand why people hide behind their profile. This is a small town and most people work in the area. If they post their profile and the employer find out they you may end up unemployed! they don't have to discuss there employoer if they discuss someone their working with or friends with- they could end up fired and black balled. I've seen it happen right here in Liberty County. If we count those people out we may be shutting the door on some inside information...I'm sure if the person had nothing to lose they wouldn't hide their profile.

PoliticsNation commented on Monday, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:55 AM

Sorry for the typos..trying to type and look over my back.

guardianangel commented on Monday, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Mr. JM.
I am truly sorry for the fact you think whether or not I keep my profile private is so important over the fact the Mayor is not following their Charter. I only post the truth and I do not deal in gossip. I am on a mission to make the wonderful citizens know the truth of what goes on. If I don't have the proof, I wouldn't be posting. What the citizens do with it is up to them.

PoliticsNation commented on Monday, Jun 10, 2013 at 16:04 PM

@ JimmyMack...whistle blower laws don't work in an at-will state...I know first hand.

CasualObserver commented on Tuesday, Jun 11, 2013 at 06:26 AM

In an attempt to clarify some issues on this blog I provide the following information about the requirements to be a certified police officer in the State of Georgia. The training required to become certified is the 404 hour basic course held at a certified academy. The training requirement for Chief of Police is an additional 60 hour class plus the annual requirement of 20 hours of Chief’s training. A non-certified individual can attend the chief’s executive training class but does not have any arrest powers until they attend the 404 hour basic law enforcement course. I do not know the details of this particular case but these are the requirements through the State of Georgia and if an individual does not meet these requirements they are not a certified police officer, have no arrest powers, and cannot portray themselves as a police officer. As I pointed out before, O.C.G.A. 35-1-12 requires the Chief of Police be a certified peace officer. The question is, has the Chief attended the 404 hour basic course? I don’t have a dog in this fight, just like to provide clarification since I am a retired police officer myself. If anyone wants to read the entire code section they can go to
§ 35-8-10. Applicability and effect of certification requirements generally; requirements as to exempt persons

(a) No person required to comply with the certification provisions of this chapter shall be employed or appointed by any law enforcement unit without certification from the council that the applicant has met the preemployment requirements established in this chapter, and no candidate shall perform any of the duties of a peace officer involving the power of arrest until such training shall have been successfully completed.

(GCA 92A-21 18.1) Newly appointed chiefs of police and heads of law enforcement units required to attend law enforcement chief executive training class
(a) Any newly appointed chief of police or department head of a law enforcement unit whose term of employment commences after December 31, 1992, shall complete a minimum of 60 hours of law enforcement chief executive training at the next scheduled law enforcement chief executive training class sponsored by the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police following his or her appointment. Such training shall be in addition to the basic training required of peace officers in Code Section 35-8-9.
e) Any newly appointed chief of police or department head of a law enforcement unit who does not fulfill the training requirement of this Code section shall lose his power of arrest.

timeontarget commented on Tuesday, Jun 11, 2013 at 07:31 AM

As long as there is any participant on this site who is unidentified I fail to see the glory of anyone who is identified.

Regardless of our individual opinion on this matter this site is going to attract some who will speak critically of some public officials and remain unidentified.

I agree with PoliticsNation on this matter.

The community is better served when unidentified bloggers can post blogs which question actions of local government.

So long as the questions have substance.

timeontarget commented on Wednesday, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:13 AM

JM you are correct in your last statement above.

However in this new Charlie Brown world I hate to say it but I could not speak as frankly as I've been able to do on this site.

Our government at all levels has become our enemy in my opinioon. This Courier blog site allows even folks in Ludowici to speak critically of the shenanigans which take place there and have for years.

There have been some shenanigans in Liberty as well such as the purchase of the marina site on Bermuda bluff.

Mountain has posted some of the more profound comments on this site and I have no idea who he/she is but I value the posts.

We need to encourage more and not be so concerned with the messenger but more concerned with the message. When the message is relevant and has substance.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 06:42 AM

JM you would likely not have been afforded the ability to be as brash and bold as I've always known you to be if you were employed in the private sector or especially if you had been self employed. Had you been either you would have suffered economically or you would have remained silent on some controversial issues I suspect.

This Coastal Courier blog site affords ,all who choose to do so,the opportunity to call attention to matters with which they find to be a shenanigan of the public sector officials.

This very blog is a prime example of this fact.

PoliticsNation said above that whistle blower laws don't work in an at-will state and I too know that to be the cold hard truth.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 07:04 AM

You JM on the left, along with others, have done well on this site in posting your support of the liberal agenda as well as your defense arguments when those on the right call attention to matters seemed to be, to a conservative's perspective, in which the liberal view is not for the common good.

Mostly these debates have centered on our Federal government.

Funk and sebe and others have carried the debate for the right and they too have done well in their efforts.

From my perspective we all dwell a bit too much on the national level and not quiet enough on the state and regional level.

On this site it really makes very little difference as to a blogger's opinion of our President and Congress as thoughts and statements posted here will likely never impact things on a national or state level.

We who participate on this site could have some impact on issues of the state level but I suspect that we and this site would gain a little more in our ability to be an influence on local issues, city, county and state legislature for example.

Words are indeed very powerful and TOT does in fact know that.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 07:22 AM

guardianangel (whoever that is) could not have posted this blog (if he/she identified their actual person) without suffering some sort of reprisal I suspect.

We who find time to visit and contribute to this site might garner more satisfaction from paying more attention to local issues.

You JM were bold in your early support for our most recently elected sheriff Steve Sikes. That was interesting and I would like to see more of such.

On the national level you JM and TOT are indeed polar opposites.

On the local level that is a different story.

The Coastal Courier is a local Newspaper and it is in fact the county organ.

We all remember the Liberty County Herald and the Hinesville Sentinal and they both competed to be the first and boldest in their efforts to perform as the community watchdog.

There were others such as the Star and another brief effort by State Rep. Al Williams.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 07:35 AM

Now in the year 2013 we are indeed in a whole new world.

Our community newspaper has led the way in the effort to transition from print on paper to electronic distribution of news and opinion.

This blog site has become important to locals who no longer live here and can get home delivery or purchase a paper Courier from the nearest corner box.

Very few local folks have revealed their real identity when they have participated here.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 07:43 AM

It appears to me that most of our participants on this site who reveal their actual identity are retired military or defense department employees.

Their retirement checks are secure as long as there is not total collapse of the federal government.

All real revenue which finances our government comes from the private sector.

Anonymity affords those in the private sector a little more opportunity to voice their opinion.

mountain commented on Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:19 PM

timeontarget, the point I was trying to make is if you call someone out by name then you should have the BALLS to make your profile public.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 15:58 PM

Mountain, I don't see that an individual has been called out by name.

I see that a process of municipal authority has been questioned.

Maybe I'm wrong.

timeontarget commented on Saturday, Jun 15, 2013 at 07:43 AM

Seven different bloggers have contributed to this particular blog.

Jm is the only one not hiding their profile.

Anonymity affords more readers an opportunity to express opinions and ideas.

The Coastal Courier is to be commended for providing this service to the community.

mountain commented on Monday, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM

timeontarget, James Rogers was called out in the first sentence of this blog. Did you nor read the blog?

timeontarget commented on Tuesday, Jun 18, 2013 at 06:17 AM

Mountain, yes I did read the blog.

James Rogers was hired to be Police chief.

I would think that he was hired by the council.

Was it an appointment by the mayor with approval of the council?

I see your point but it still seems to me that the "finger pointing" is directed at those who approved the hire.

If James was named Chief and is or is not qualified I think the appointment is a reflection on those elected officials who allowed it to happen.

timeontarget commented on Tuesday, Jun 18, 2013 at 06:22 AM

James Rogers is my friend and I've known him to have been employed in law enforcement on first the state level for a number of years and then as deputy Sheriff here in Liberty County for many years.

If this blog is condemning anybody it is those who did the hire.

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