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I don't support gay marriage. If my child shared with me that he/she was Gay; that wouldn't change my love for them. However, I wouldn't condone the marriage. I can love my children and not support their lifestyle.

The difference between me and Sen. Portman is that he represents a large number of people not just a select few. The constituents in area may be black white poor rich or gay.


..CINCINNATI (AP) — Republican U.S. Sen. Rob Portman is now supporting gay marriage and says his reversal on the issue began when he learned one of his sons is gay.

Ohio's junior senator disclosed his change of heart in interviews with several Ohio newspapers and CNN. In an op-ed published Friday in The Columbus Dispatch he said the decision came after a lot of thought.

"I have come to believe that if two people are prepared to make a lifetime commitment to love and care for each other in good times and in bad, the government shouldn't deny them the opportunity to get married," he wrote.

As a member of the House in 1996, Portman voted in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman and bars federal recognition of same-sex marriage.

Portman said his views on gay marriage began changing in 2011 when his son, Will, then a freshman at Yale University, told his parents he was gay and that it wasn't a choice but "part of who he was." Portman said he and his wife, Jane, were very surprised but also supportive.

He said it prompted him to reconsider gay marriage from a different perspective, that of a father who wants all three of his children to have happy lives with people they love.

He said he talked to his pastor and to people on both sides of the gay marriage issue, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who is opposed to gay marriage, and former Vice President Dick Cheney, who supports it. Cheney's daughter is a lesbian.

Portman told reporters Thursday that his previous views on marriage were rooted in his Methodist faith.

"Ultimately, for me, it came down to the Bible's overarching themes of love and compassion and my belief that we are all children of God," he wrote.

The well-known Ohio conservative, a former U.S. trade representative and White House budget chief, was considered but not chosen as Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney's running mate. Portman told the newspapers Romney was informed about Will's sexuality last year.

Portman's reversal comes as the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to hear arguments this month in a challenge to a provision of the Defense of Marriage Act.

Portman said he would like Congress to repeal the provision of the DOMA that bans federal recognition of gay marriage, though he still supports the part of the law that says states should not be forced to recognize such marriages.

A group working to overturn Ohio's ban on same-sex marriage praised Portman's comments.

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JimmyMack commented on Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Yes, Pn, It IS a new world Charlie Brown. One that is forcing many conservatives to alter their previously tightly held 'values.' While the world changes, many on the right, stay stagnantly entrenched in the Dark Ages.

PoliticsNation commented on Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:20 AM

For those entrencehed in the Dark Ages. I highly recommend the book below.

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In the story, the characters are faced with unexpected change. Eventually, one of them deals with change successfully, and writes what he has learned from his experience on the maze walls. When you come to see "The Handwriting on the Wall" you can discover for yourself how to deal with change and enjoy more success and less stress in your work and in your life.

JimmyMack commented on Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM

PN: I think you may be giving some of them too much credit. Like for instance: having the ability to read(right wing redneck dropouts) and secondly, if they can read, having the ability to understand what they have read. (those that finished High School)

sebekm commented on Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 23:01 PM

PolNat: I completely agree with the first para of your basic blog comment. Those who "change their mind" and compromise their principles when they are personally affected by an issue didn't really have firm principles to begin with. I guess I'll join you in the Dark Ages. We have a close family member who is homosexual, and he knows his family loves him as a person but hates the "sin." He also knows he's VERY fortunate to live in this country. In a large part of the rest of the world, he wouldn't be pursuing happiness - he'd be pursuing survival.

PoliticsNation commented on Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 23:18 PM

Sebekm your right. I actually dislike most of the issues we discuss daily. I don't like giving hand-outs because so many people take of the system. However, there are some people that need help. I don't want people to suffer but it upsets me when people try and beat the system. I believe we need healthcare and welfare. I also feel that we need tougher penalties for people that abuse the system. Example: If a mother receives food-stamps or TANF for a child and he's not attending school..she shouldn't be allowed to receive benefits on the child's behalf. I guarantee that parent would ensure the child was in school after they cut the check. I'm a lefty but I'm a conservative lefty...

sebekm commented on Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 23:40 PM

I agree with you. We just need more honesty nowadays - in government and individually. But I just don't see our society teaching it or our media or culture reinforcing it. A lot of people today scoff at the "values" portrayed in television programs such as the Andy Griffith Show, Lassie, Leave it to Beaver, etc., but IMHO we'd be a hell of a lot better off as a society today if some of those media-reinforced qualities of honesty, humility, truthfulness and personal responsibility were widespread and actively promoted. What I see promoted in the media today is sleaze, selfishness, and how to beat the system.

It's no wonder that our society now has greater problems than it's ever had.

timeontarget commented on Saturday, Mar 16, 2013 at 07:11 AM

PoliticsNation and sebekm I agree with each and every word of the statements you two posted on this blog string yesterday.

PoliticsNation I'm a right winger but I'm Liberal with some of my views such as regarding Marijuana.

As Dr Carson so wisely stated: The Bald Eagle reached lofty heights because he had a left wing and a right wing.

We are only promised to have the birthright as a citizen for the pursuit of happiness.

Thought provoking blog.

JimmyMack commented on Saturday, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Hi Sebe. Just a wonderin' how Zig-Zag fits in the "change their mind...compromise their principles" thingy.? BTW I love Andy Griffith reruns. But I think Two and Half Men is soft porn and shouldn't be on t.v. But, Hey...this is 'Merica man and I don't think T.V. and some of the television shows noted above are 'tasked' with teaching us honesty, humility, truthfulness and personal responsibilty. The last time I checked on those things those qualities were the responsibilty of parents and The Church. Not Lassie reruns, Leave It to Beaver, or Ozzie and Harriett.

Just sayin'.

sebekm commented on Sunday, Mar 17, 2013 at 15:41 PM

Hi Jimmy: As to those TV shows - as I said, those shows "media-reinforced" teachings which were already in the cultural base, both at home and in schools. Nowadays, we have the triple whammy where neither the home-schoolin' nor the public-schoolin' nor the media-schoolin' are either teaching nor promoting those values upon which this country was founded and upon which the survival of our society depends. Yes - all three work together, but now since we're letting our kids be raised by the media, THINGS ARE EVEN WORSE THAN EVER because the media has more influence than ever before. Back when, kids would see an example at home which was reinforced in school and compounded in the media. They couldn't point to any one and say: "See - they're doin' it, what's so wrong?" to parents. Now our society is a free-for-all where anything goes.

As for the church, nobody seems to practice anymore and with all the scandals their credibility is at an all-time low - generally speaking across the country. Back when - the church was ANOTHER means of reinforcing values. So with its deemphasis big-time, our society has lost that means of reinforcement, too.

It's all of the above that tells me we are going to hell in a handbasket - culturally and morally. When we allow ourselves to digress to where "right" and "wrong" are meaningless terms or only apply to somebody else, it's only a matter of time before chaos rules. We're seeing it in the cities and metropolitan areas now, where people aren't safe on the streets. I read an article the other day about a baby who was outdoors and daddy was doing a diaper change when the baby was shot multiple times in a drive-by. The baby died and became just another statistic in Mr. Obama's (and my) home town.

As to the Zig-Zagger, I view his "political evolution" much the same as I view President Obama's epiphany on homosexual marriage. Just as the President "saw the light," Zell Miller saw the error of his ways and "evolved" to a higher state. That's a bit different than Senator Portman's stance AGAINST; and then doing a 180. Portman's reversal is more like John Kerry's: if you recall he was "for the Iraq war before he was against it." So Portman is to Kerry as Miller is to Obama.

JimmyMack commented on Monday, Mar 18, 2013 at 15:12 PM

Thank you Sebe. You are indeed very good at articulating your points of view.

As for going to hell in a handbasket...
When Iran gets the bomb, and it is looking like the only thing that will stop them is a pre-emptive strike by Israel, they will hand it off to Al-Quaeda and hell on earth will then be ushered in. A nuclear stike will not go unanswered.

lholmes commented on Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:07 AM

*sigh* Bizaro world! I'm getting so freaking tired of this gay marriage agenda push. It's woven its way into everything like a cancer. If one of my kids came to me and said they were gay, it would be really disheartening as I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and I disagree with homosexuality. Doesn't mean I don't love my child, but there won't be a joyous time of them and their same sex partner around opening up Christmas presents together.

sebekm commented on Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM

....and now Hillary has flipped:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/20...

Apparently there's no time like the present to position oneself for the future. The Clintons calculate EVERYTHING, and they must now believe that it's more imporant to "secure the base" than to worry about alienating potential independent voters who might oppose homosexual marriage.

The main issue here is ENTITLEMENTS - and don't let anybody tell you different. (Entitlements...and wanting to shove a stick in the eye of those who believe in the traditional definition of marriage.)


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