Sebe, just a crass referance in the last sentence, sorry if I offended...I am surprised that you feel that strongly about not allowing women in combat. Many do allude to the standards being lowered to accomdate, physical prowess ect. As I originaly posted though, it is a leadership issue to insure that does not become the case. I was not kidding about the number of males that cant cut the mustard; it is just as prevelant. I concede that there will be growing pains as well as the fears of the distraction it will cause may occur. But I was not whitewashing about some of the female Soldiers I have served with; they were capable and put lead down range just as well as I did. This may end up being yet just another great social expierment but change can be managed if leadership strives to make it work. A Soldier is a Soldier. All Soldiers that are capable should be allowed to serve side by side.
one problem is women DO NOT meet the same standards as men, the physical standards are lower for women. i don't see many women being able to break track on a M1A2 tank. nor drag the track sections by them self like the guys do (250 lb) sections.
In the PT test yes there are different standards but in air assualt and other combat oriented programs, the standards are the same.
As far as females serving in front lines operations, I agree with the original poster, however, I know of many females that may lack a penis but have far more balls than many of our male military members and could serve as well, if not better, on our front lines as we speak.
different standards are different standards, they should be the same as the men if they want to be like them. the enemy does not go easy because they are fighting women. the men would be put in more risk by having women that are not up to the same standards of a man that would have been in their place.
The military opened the doors for gays! I'd rather be in a fox hole with a gay woman that has the role of man, than a gay guy that as the role of a female...YES! They should all be on the same standards as you...
well...in today's society, men have femmed up so much and women have butched up so much that one can hardly tell the difference anymore.
This is all fine and good until one of the female soldiers gets her head cut off and shown on Aljazeera TV, then what?
I think it is important to reconize that it doesn't matter the gender of a grevious act. 90% of this concept is perception and pre-conceived view points that women will not be able to hang. I circle back to my original post that the Soldier will have to meet the standards and be able to 100% perform the mission associated with that job. I say again that this will be a leadership issue to manage. Sebe, thanks for your comments, I get it, and respect your opinion. At the end of the day however, not really concerned with gender or sexual preferance if they are putting lead down range.
that's a precieved notion that is so wrong. putting lead down range is less then half of the job of combat arms. there is so much more to it.
Mountain,is it more horrific because it was a woman? I think not. IF a woman is willing to take the risk and can pull her weight as well as a man (ie PT and other criteria) then I say go for it. THe only problem I see is pregnancy.
I love some of those comments at the end of that YAHOO article.
My ex wife would have been really good in combat. She'd nag the Taliban into surrendering.
Let's abolish all women's events in the Olympics and let them compete with the men.
I wonder how they will do with hand to hand combat. I mean if they can be equal to the male species physically then we would have already seen it in sports competition.
No doubt, I could see Janet Reno & Hillary Clinton sitting in a snipers nest with BIG smiles.
Hillary's already faked being targeted by sniper fire. She's over qualified.
Rosie O'Donnell would emasculate any foe too.
Of the 1,100 women who served in Iraq or Afghanistan and were surveyed by Street’s team, 48.6 percent admitted to being sexually harassed and 22.8 percent admitted to being sexually assaulted – and in some cases raped – while serving in a war zone.
But regardless of the new findings, the Pentagon has not promised to take any action to tackle the problem of sexual misconduct. Nate Galbreath, a senior adviser for the Pentagon’s sexual assault prevention office, said that he is not assessing Street’s research until he learns more about how it was conducted.
“It comes down to culture. (It) hasn’t changed, no matter what the generals or the secretaries of Defense say about zero tolerance,” California Rep. Jackie Speier told USA Today. “They have not scrubbed the sexism… out of the military.”
Many of the women who reported sexual harassment allege that the perpetrators were US military men. Earlier this year, dozens of female recruits at an Air Force base in Texas said they were sexually assaulted by their male instructors.
I believe all 18 year old women should have to sign up for selective service just like males when they turn 18.
I think it is going to be very interesting to say the least as to how this plays out. Women have DEMANDED equality now for many years and it seems that their particular Sun is rising.
Maybe it was said above or somewhere else, but the old saying: Be careful what you wish for, cause you just might get it" may have arrived.
Thanks Up2. I was just a wonderin.
Ya reckon they will all have to line up nekked like the men do to be examined?
And does it matter ifn its a male doctor doin the hernia check or a female one?
And do the gals have to turn their heads and cough?
These details interest me...:)
I've had both male and female doctors. Either is good. No, we don't turn our heads unless a handsome man flatters us. ;)