Hummm, Interesting, I will ponder this before I comment.

Me too!

A Nazi? Really Murr?

That's funny. Republican brownshirts. Your fuhrer, Obama, just graduated the first class of Obama Youth recently. They are really the next class of jack booted thugs the fascist regime is ready to throw at the hard working, tax paying republicans who support this great country. Take a look and get your facts straight. http://jeenyuscorner.com/2012/10/13/f...

Yet "Murrelet" the LEFT is now calling Obama a "Rockefeller Republican in Blackface" & Nancy Giles of CBS News is accusing Republicans of closing Planned Parenthood & Abortion Clinics in our great "Eugenics" & White Race rebuilding, what ever is a centrist to do or believe for that matter?!?!?!

http://thegrio.com/2012/11/12/cornel-...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cbss-...

Once again, Murrelet obfuscates and changes the subject. It was a "progressive" writer (no doubt a "hero" to them) who used the brown shirt analogy and proposed the apology. Jensen claims to represent "progressive" views and writes as a standard bearer for "progressive" ideas. Let's hear what another self-professed "progressive" has to say about a "progressive" opinion which has been exposed to the light of day.

HEY MURRELET: Why don't you comment on Jensen's proposal? He wrote it; he suggested it; claimed it was appropriate: I DIDN'T. Do you like it? Do you think it is a good idea? Should we dump Thanksgiving in favor of "a day of atonement" and fasting?

Come on - what do you have to say about it? Address the SUBJECT - for a change.

Yes speak up and answer or stop the childish blather.

Oh I know exactly what a fascist is. I also know what an ignoramus is. Fascist=Obama ignoramus=Murrelet
When I compare Obama to Hitler I certainly feel that it is correct usage of the word fascist. That is unless you don't think Hitler was fascist? You are just like your leader. When you can't refute something you use diversion and insults. I think we've had this conversation before. Keep your silly opinions to yourself.

Did you even look at the link in my post? Tell me that the Obama youth doesn't stink of an emerging fascist state. Never mind. You obviously don't have the intelligence to comprehend, hence,ignoramus.

Happy 62nd Birthday Michael Sebek, you are indeed an American Patriot sir!

I wonder what the response would be if a decision was pending to only celebrate one day of Black history as oppossed to an entire month. Lets take it further, only one day a year for all ethnic groups so as not to "over celebrate" so as not to offend. If we spent more time actually reflecting as oppossed to trying to make the meaning of any said holiday more than what it is, things might not be so contentious.

Murr, I kinda of agree with you; obama might not be a facist. He sure as hell is a socialist though. Feel free to define if need be..

Murr, can you please define "corporatist"? Also please pair the definition with the current administartions policies. You of course do not have to reply but I am interested to understand how you came to that conclusion. As for how other countries govern, not interested until we can figure out how to govern our own. Thanks

"No, not at all. I just insist that people know how to use English words correctly. As for sebekm, I have always thought he was a sexist and a racist. Therefore, this blog entry does not surprise me in the least. It's always the fascists, the racists, the sexists, etc., who insist that a sanitized version of "history" be told to the masses. Nothing new here."

You STILL have not commented on Jensen's plea to dump Thanksgiving Day in favor of A Day of Atonement. Do you agree with this "progressive" viewpoint? What do you think of his IDEAS? What is YOUR opinion.

Yes - there's nothing new here. Any racism or sexism is being demonstrated by JENSEN. You refuse to admit it. That's nothing new. You attack instead of engaging in a debate of ideas. That's nothing new. YOU HAVE NO IDEAS - ONLY OBFUSCATION. That's nothing new.

"Happy 62nd Birthday..."

Thanks, Funky - another one bites the dust. I've been away from the computer for a few days "celebrating the Thanksgiving holidays" (as opposed to apologizing and atoning for the "genocide" that my "angry white male" non-ancestors perpetrated on our Native Americans. I hope all of you who do not share Herr Jensen's warped viewpoint also had a great Thanksgiving - without apologies.

Social Security is not an entitlement furnished by the government.

It is purchased by the employee with a match provided by the employer.

Bought and paid for by the individual, through his or her work ethic over the course of a lifetime.

Medicade on the other hand is stolen from the social security trust fund for the welfare recipient who goes begging to the government.

Murr,

just for the record, I did not need a history lesson. My inquiry was to ask you to elaborate on your thoughts. I do not recall asking you to include whether he is black or white. Just an objective comparison that validates your claim.

TOT, Medicaid is not just for the welfare reciepent. Many hardworking low income people, such as low ranking military, get Medicaid. Then there are the people who worked hard all their lives (like my great aunt who worked since she was 14 and was not unemployed until she retired) but did not make enough to get full RSDI benefits (Social Security as opposed to SSI. Then there are the disabled children who grown into disabled adults. Without Medicaid, they would not be able to get ANY health insurance. While welfare receipants do get Medicaid, in the overall picture, they are a small minority.

No worries Murr, as per the usual, insults in the place of you actualy validating your position with specific claims to specific instances. Rant on murr, rant and insult on. Just remember when you choose to use that sort of rhetoric, any point you were trying to make is lost in your self rightousness

"Sebekm, I said I think you are a racist and a sexist. If you need further clarification, here it is: I think your racism was the motivation behind your post. There is no reasoning with racists, thus I have nothing further to say to you about this or, really, anything else."

Try being less of a motivational analyst and more of a direct question responder:

What do you think of JENSEN's viewpoint? How in the world can my being a racist or a sexist possibly affect JENSEN'S opinions and suggestions about Thanksgiving? Jensen published his viewpoint for the entire world to see. I spotlighted HIS opinion in his own words, and asked whether our society should continue to "give thanks" as we historically have or whether we should "apologize and atone" (Jensen's words - not mine). I did so respectfully without any name-calling or labeling. You could learn something from this approach.

You chose to respond by attacking me - as usual. Not by answering the questions or by directing your comments to the issues, but by attacking and derogatory labeling. But then - what else is new?

You won't answer because you refuse to either label "one of your own" negatively - or you don't want to AGREE with him. That would involve taking responsibility for what is obvious to the vast majority of Americans as an "out of the mainstream" viewpoint.

"Racicm?" I quoted Jensen and asked whether we should apologize instead of giving thanks. You are obfuscating because you don't want to admit that "one of yours" has an idea so out of the mainstream that it would be laughed at by 99% of the population of this country.

When I wrote the blog, I had no idea whether Jensen was black or white. I was considering HIS IDEA. That's something you ought to try for a change.

Your "deference" argument is more obfuscation. It's there for the world to see.

…..also – why don’t you try making a POSITIVE contribution to these blogs for a change? The only thing you do is trash everyone and every thing you comment about.

Oh – I guess that’s where you came up with the “self-validating” approach.