...I didn't think A&M had it in them. But I told my son when we did our weekly picks that Alabama might not be ready for this one.
Great game. Go "Johnny Football!"
Don't be suprised when TX A&M are the SEC champions next year.
I took TX A&M +7 points and bet the house.
Hi IKY: You are a wise man. fer shure. I had a hunch, but mine haven't been playing out too well lately ;)
I've also been betting heavy on Arkansas St this year and not just because my Nephew is the starting freshman center but the coach has a national championship under his belt at Auburn.
Sorry for getting back to you so late. I have been tied up out of town again. Yes I saw the game. I saw the upset coming in the 2nd quarter. This has really shaken things up in the BCS Rankings. Would you believe that you would ever see six SEC Teams in the top ten rankings? I have never seen that in my life time. But that tells you SEC Dominates in NCAA Football. I spoke earlier in the season that Georgia will have a chance to play for the National Title. I am even more convinced that this can happen. Georgia has to win out the regular season, in which I see no problem with the not happening. They are now the SEC Eastern Division Champions for the 2nd year in a row after hammering Auburn in it first beating of this magnitude since 1976. The Dawgs Defense is clicking on all cylinders, and the offense has shown up to play as well. They will now face Alabama in December at the Georgia in Atlanta, Georgia for the SEC Championship, Georgia's 2nd year in a row.
Here is my prediction:
Alabama is still in my opinion a very good football team. This everyone thought was invincible. South Carolina's Head Football Coach said that Alabama is so good, they could an NFL Team. Now I doubt that, but they as far as NCAA Football, I did not believe that any team could beat them. But now not so fast my friend. The Texas A&M shocked the entire community beating Alabama with Freshman Quarterback "Johnny Football" playing under center taking the snaps. No one saw this coming, not even the bookies. That was a major upset. Now I post game this past Saturday, I sat back drank a few beers and was chatting with some of my colleagues, when it came to me that maybe Alabama was not that good after all, or their schedule was so tough that maybe the team has softened up some from the brutal hands of playing against so many ranked teams, and the brutal schedule of playing in the SEC. What makes Alabama so good is that Nick Saban have them fundamentally sound. They play mistake free football, and their opponents make a mistake, they capitalize on it, and make you pay dearly. But thanks to Texas A&M, they expose Alabama, making not so invincible.
This I now predict:
Alabama will get themselves together, and will be ready to play Georgia in Atlanta at the Georgia Dome in December. You can put your last dollar on that. Alabama have a very good defense, and a well balanced offense.
Georgia in the earlier season, defense was preached about in the media, and by sports analyst of having one of the best defenses in the NCAA. But after the defense was exposed to the South Carolina Gamecocks Offense, they were humiliated, and embarrassed with an astounding loss of 35-7. Their games played after that loss were wins but the Georgia Defense was still in my opinion lacking, and for the most part mediocre to sub par. It took a team mate to call them out, and since that time, the defense has been playing lights out football. The Georgia Offense is an explosive one with two freshman running backs Gurley, and Marshall getting the touches. They have great wide recievers and a great tight end. The two running backs Marshall, and Gurley this past weekend against Auburn, gained over 100 rushing yards each on the ground attack.
Alabama is a very good football team and been all season.
Georgia had become complacent in their style of playing, but has since been rejuvenated...
Alabama is great, but Georgia is better.
I am taking the Georgia Bulldogs in another upset win over the Alabama Crimson Tide, and I pick Georgia to play in the National Championship Game january 7, 2013 in Miami, Florida. Why?
Because the top three teams:
Kansas State may lose to Texas
Oregon will lose to Stanford and / or USC
Notre Dame wont beat USC on the road this year.
That will open up the BCS Ranking sending Georgia to either number 1 or number 2 in the country, and them playing for the National Championship.
Now there you have it.
Go Dawgs! SIC EM !!!
Go Fetch Me A Championship!!!!!
"Sorry for getting back to you so late. I have been tied up out of town again."
No problem. I agree with everything you say - even the part that KState *may* lose to Texas - but I doubt it. They have the easiest route to the national championship game, and after all they've been through as a team in the past two years, I don't see that nucleus (or Coach Bill Snyder - the 2012 NCAA Football Coach of the Year) letting it slip through their fingers. Unlike some others, KState actually has a DEFENSE, and they are relatively healthy and battle tested.
I think it's more likely that Oregon or Notre Dame will slip up. Oregon has what is always a test in their last regular game (a road game to boot): The Civil War with OR State. No matter how outmatched the underdog seems in that game, they always seem to play very tough and sometimes win. And then they have those two against Stanford and USC. So they have the toughest road to stay unbeaten, IMHO.
But my hunch is that the national championship game will be between KState and Notre Dame. I could be wrong - I've been wrong before. But Notre Dame also has a bit of the "Cinderella" in them. For all the self-inflicted losses they've had over the past few years, this year the odds seem to be evening up. USC is NOT what it once was, and now they have to resort to cheating (deflating footballs ans who knows what else) to stay competitive. They are under close scrutiny for that and other things. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a scandal soon in the tradition of LSU and Mathieu. So I can see ND winning that game for sure (unless they go into self-destruct mode). They also have a DEFENSE - unlike most PAC 12 and Big 12 teams.
Also IMHO, Alabama should have TWO losses. The Mad Hatter gave them the game with those FOUR screwball calls, otherwise LSU would have won by double digits.
"They have the easiest route to the national championship game, and after all they've been through as a team in the past two years, I don't see that nucleus (or Coach Bill Snyder - the 2012 NCAA Football Coach of the Year) letting it slip through their fingers. Unlike some others, KState actually has a DEFENSE, and they are relatively healthy and battle tested."
True but don't underestimate the Texas Longhorns. They are know for pulling upsets. But in addition for the easiest road to the national Title, they unlike others don't play a Big 12 Championship Game as the other Conferences. That is unfair. Why would you give those teams that do not play for a Conference Championship a pass to the BCS National Championship when other teams play a National Championship. That is an unfair advantage. The teams play one extra game to determine who will play in a BCS Bowl game. That again is unfair.
I meant to say
Why would you give those teams that do not play for a Conference Championship a free pass to the BCS National Championship when other teams play a Conference Championship? That is wrong....
I don't underestimate Texas, but if any team FOLDS in crunch-time, it is them. When they had Vince Young a few years back they broke with "tradition" under Mack Brown, but ever since they have under-achieved consistently. Texas has perennially had one of the top - if not THE TOP - recruiting classes in the nation, and they have next to nothing to show for it (national championship-wise).
If you look at the BCS strength-of-schedule, you see why KState is at the top. KState has beaten four top-25 teams this year. It's not their fault they have no conference championship. Recent defections from the Big 12 made a conference championship impractical in the short term. But I could also ask why a team that beats up on the likes of Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and Missouri, and who schedules a "breather" like Western Carolina near the end of their season should still be in contention for a national championship at all. I STILL believe that the weak link of Alabama is their head coach, and that team WAS NOT ready to play this past Saturday.
Notre Dame is a unique story in college football, and their independent status over the years has never seemed to hamper them for national championship consideration. Knute Rockne, Rudy, etc., - I still can't believe Paul Hornung won the Heismann on a ND team that only had 3 wins.
Check out this analysis of KState and ND: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/14...
I know - I'm preaching KState and ND in SEC country. But the SEC is now on the outside looking in, and it's their own dam' fault. They couldn't take care of business when it mattered, and they have had some bad luck and injuries.
Every now and then you have a change in the cycle or a buck in the trend. It's been SEC and everybody else for so long that when you are in the forest you think that's the natural order of things. It has been for quite awhile, but nothing lasts forever.
TX A&M up until just recently was a Big 12 team. KState beat A&M last year in a shootout, when their defense wasn't nearly as solid or as experienced as it now is. As I mentioned, this year KState has defeated four top 25 teams, and beat Oklahoma and West Virginia - both on the road - when (I believe) they were in the top 10. At the time, WV's quarterback was the favorite for the Heismann. After facing K-State's defense, Mr. WV QB hasn't been heard from again as a viable Heismann candidate.
KState plays TX at home. Assuming they roll past Baylor, I don't see them blowing it (assuming their QB avoids another concussion).
As for Notre Dame, if they win - and Oregon loses - they're IN. No ifs, ands or buts. People will vote for Rockne, Rudy, and everything else be damned. And their schedule has been just good enough.
Yes. Good points again. I have always said...when in doubt, if there is any, they will give it to Notre Dame.
I don't think they will beat SC. And the Longhorns purpose is now to crush others dreams. Oregon...well...they are the DUCKS aren't they? THE DUCKS!!!
"I know - I'm preaching KState and ND in SEC country. But the SEC is now on the outside looking in, and it's their own dam' fault. They couldn't take care of business when it mattered, and they have had some bad luck and injuries."
Ok I'm not making any excuses here. But surely and clearly Alabama's strength of schedule are stronger than any of the top three teams remaining.
The Big 12 the PAC 12, neither do any Independents (Especially Notre Dame) no way measures up to the SEC Conference. Period.
The ONLY lost that Alabama suffered from came from an SEC Team. No Big 12, PAC 12, or Independent. Matter of fact, No Top ten SEC team has lost to any team outside of the SEC Conference this year.
They are SIX SEC Teams that are in the Top Ten, and close to being SEVEN. Never in my life time have I seen so much dominance in the NCAA from one Conference. The Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10 Pac 12, The Big East, Wac, Mac, Independents, Big Sky, etc. No Conference has ever achieved this feat.
This is the SEC, and on any given Saturday, a SEC team can be beaten by another SEC Team. I am willing to say this:
NO FOOTBALL TEAM OUTSIDE OF THE SEC CONFERENCE CAN BEAT ANY SEC TOP TEN FOOTBALL TEAM. THATS RIGHT I SAID IT!!!
If Kansas stays the course winning out, (but I have a feeling that Texas is going to upset them) they will be in the National Championship Game in Miami.
The other two, Oregon will drop one of those two games either to Stanford and or Oregon State. Pregon State has their number. It has been proven that Orergon high powered offense could not contend with the SEC as LSU hammered them in the BCS National Championship Game a few years ago. Then is the regular season, they (Oregon) lost in the regular season to a SEC Team. Notre Dame? LOL.... I beliebe Georgia Whipped them in the BCS Nationsl Championship Game. Remember number 34 Herchel Walker? LOL...
The Only team in question will be Kansas State.
Again, you have the SEC Conference, and then EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!!
So let the media and sports analyst, along with the carnival barkers enjoy the ride. It will be short. :-)
"But I could also ask why a team that beats up on the likes of Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, and Missouri, and who schedules a "breather" like Western Carolina near the end of their season should still be in contention for a national championship at all. I STILL believe that the weak link of Alabama is their head coach, and that team WAS NOT ready to play this past Saturday."
well when you lay in the SEC and your Conference games alone, it is brutal enough. Alabama play number 3 LSU in a hard fought game, they played at the time number 10 Misissippi State in a tough game but they did end routing them, they played OLE Miss, they Played a down Arkansas but Arkansas played them pretty tough in the first quarter but end up routing them as well, and they also beat Big 10 top ten ranked at the time Michigan, and whipped them like they stole something.
Alabama did not play Kentucky. Georgia did, and that is another storyline.The SEC is the largets Conference in the NCAA with fourteen teams. The SEC teams can't play all conference games.
"But surely and clearly Alabama's strength of schedule are stronger than any of the top three teams remaining."
It's NOT, Sporty. That's why KState is #1 in the BCS. It's not because of the VOTERS - it's the computers and their strength of schedule.
As to who beats the SEC - A&M beat AL with absolutely NO SEC pedigree whatsoever. They have been a Big 12 team since time immmemorial, and the bodies they now have on their roster were recruited while they were a Big 12 team.
SEC teams have always been a powerhouse when they play AT HOME - and they RARELY play a non-SEC really good team on the road. I attribute some of their success to this simple fact. They avoid the tough road games whenever they can. This has not been the case with Notre Dame. They have frequently played USC, Stanford, Miami, Boston College, etc., when those teams were nationally ranked.
As for the SEC and everybody else - that isn't the case now - on November 13, 2012 - just check the national rankings. And if two of the current top three teams win out, not this year. Part of the problem is last year's national championship game. Its legacy is that I'll bet you any money that if you got outside of SEC country, the vast majority of the country feels that it's time for a change and welcomes OR-ND-KState in a national championship game in lieu of any SEC teams. Call it jealousy or whatever you want, but eventually the bragging comes back to roost and when polls are concerned, it poisons the water for the braggers.
Kansas State is number 1 because of they are undefeated. Simply as that. Alabama got upset by Texas A&M whowas ranked at #15. That moved them back to # 5 in some Polls and #4 in others.
Texas A&M have evolved to be a good team and had they stayed in the Big 12, Kansas State would have had their hands full for sure. As far as rroad games, I believe you should look up LSU and Oregon and see where that regular season game was played when they (Oregon) was beaten by LSU.
As far as Notre goes, they are clearly over-rated. Always have been, and always will be. They were asked to join the Big 10, and they choese to remain independent. But all of the other sports play in the Big 10 Conference. Why is that? So they can pick and choose who they want to play, and not having to play in a Championship game. Notre Dame clearly would not beat any SEC top 10 Team today. Period!!!! Notre Dame Playing PAC 12 Stanford, USC, ACC Miami, and Boston College (Who are no contenders by far) means absolutely nothing.
It is still the case that it is the SEC and everybody else. Point taken is that if that was not true, then how do you explain the FACT that you have six SEC teams ranked in the top ten? Is that sports bias? or is that they are winning? You don't get into the top ten unless you are winning. You can welcome any team you want to the National Championship game, but guess what? If they lose just one game, I will guarantee you that Either Alabama or Georgia will be playing some one for the BCS National Championship. Now mark my word on that, and sebekm, Notre Dame, and Oregon are going to lose a game. Oregon may lose twoback to back. Kansas still stands to become upset by Texas. If not, then it will be either Georgia or Alabama playing in the BCS National Championship game.
Can you honestly tell me that if Notre Dame Lost one game, and Oregon lost a game, all having a one game loss, do you really believe that they will still be ranked ahead of Georgia or Alabama?
I am willing to bet you that they will not. They will drop low maybe back with in the top ten, but not in the top five. I can pretty much guarantee you that.
"So much for a Lou Saban-coached team"
Change that from Lou Saban to Nick Saban in your blog.
"Its legacy is that I'll bet you any money that if you got outside of SEC country, the vast majority of the country feels that it's time for a change and welcomes OR-ND-KState in a national championship game in lieu of any SEC teams. Call it jealousy or whatever you want, but eventually the bragging comes back to roost and when polls are concerned, it poisons the water for the braggers."
Do you really believe that a Oregon vs Kansas State BCS National Championship will fill the seats?
Good Luck LOL... The majority of the SEC regular season games are sold out.
We will see if this occurs. The SEC BCS Bowl games will be generating more revenue than the BCS National Championship if an SEC team is not in it. Someone there will lose money. LOL...
"Change that from Lou Saban to Nick Saban in your blog."
You're right. I've got Lou on the brain...
"Do you really believe that a Oregon vs Kansas State BCS National Championship will fill the seats?"
Why not? With the vast majority of the country howling about AL-LSU last year, the seats got filled. Actually, the people in Manhattan, Kansas are so starved for national attention that I believe the game would be sold out if you only sold tickets in Kansas.
My "sense of the nation" right now is that everywhere throughout the land - OUTSIDE of SEC Country - the vast majority of fans view the SEC much the same as non-Miami pro basketball fans view Lebron James or pro baseball fans outside of New York view the Yankees. The SEC has been so dominant for so long that fans in tne rest of the nation root against them just for general principle. Last year's national championship game was the last straw.
Here are the computer rankings I was talking about:
...and here is an article which purports to sound the "death knell" of the SEC as THE dominant college football power throughout the country. The author makes the same kinds of arguments that we heard last week from the left about the "doom" of the GOP after the Presidential election. BOTH takes on the current situation (SEC and GOP) as stated by these folks - IMHO - are propaganda. But the article on "Johnny Football" is indicative of the national mood toward the SEC. People are now rooting HARD for them to lose, and will blow up any event (such as the recent A&M - AL game) to support their argument.
Personally, I think the game everybody (outside of SEC-land, that is) wants to see is KState - Notre Dame. I think the national television ratings - if Klein and Te'o are healthy - would be off the charts.
"Can you honestly tell me that if Notre Dame Lost one game, and Oregon lost a game, all having a one game loss, do you really believe that they will still be ranked ahead of Georgia or Alabama?"
I never said that. What I said was that if two out of the three win out, those two WILL BE playing for the national championship. Period.
When the playoff system gets implemented, most of the noise which surrounds the inequities of the BCS-system will go away. Supposedly that's because the championship will be "won on the field." But let's be honest: if they use a seeding system as expected which pits No. 1 against No. 4 and No. 2 against No. 3, there will ALWAYS be arguments if there are upsets that "the REALLY best team didn't win."
The human polls will always be a "beauty contest." Right now, the computers rank the top three this way: KState, Oregon and Notre Dame. If they all (or two out of the three) win out, the SEC will be on the outside looking in, and you'll have the "it's not fair" arguments running rampant in SEC-land - much the same as the same arguments were running rampant OUTSIDE of SEC-land last year when we had AL-LSU Part 2 as the "national championship game."
"I never said that. What I said was that if two out of the three win out, those two WILL BE playing for the national championship. Period."
But I don't believe that will actually happen, and sebekm, neither do you.. You are hopig for that to happen, but I really don't believe that it will. However; I'm not always right, but I'm hardly ever wrong. This might be the case right here. But I don't think so.
In FBS System, I don't believe that they will EVER get it correct. Every NCAA Sport have a playoff system
You have the NCAA Basketball Tournament
You have the NCAA Base Ball World Series
The FCS Football System have a playoff system.
But the FBS can't seem to have one.
All of the other above besides FBS have an undisputed National Champion.
The FBS are caught up with meida bias, sports analyst bias,Heck, if you allow Lou Holtz to speak, Notre Dame should be number one every year.
The plus one might help beginning next year, but I really doubt it will solve the problem. Just have the same playoff system as the FCS and you wont have that problem. Heck, even the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS, all have a playoff system. But the FBS can't seem to get it right....
No they want to circumvent the syst,m and sneak undeserving teams inside to undeserving championships. That is why the SEC recruit so well, and win so many. They make it undenying for anyone not to have them in a National Championship. Six years Of Total Domination.... I am hoping that all three slip, and then they will definitely face an SEC Team in the National Championship. Then again you will see SEC Total Domination.
Again, No Team outside the SEC Conference can beat a top 10 SEC Team Period!!!!!
Six SEC Teams in the top ten? They did not get there by a bias vote. They earned their way there.
"The SEC has been so dominant for so long that fans in tne rest of the nation root against them just for general principle. Last year's national championship game was the last straw."
LOL it's like I am tired of the SEC winning all of the National Championships. Give someone else a turn.... LOL....
I would have believe utilizing the top 12 playing in the six highest bowl games and playing their way to the finals and for the National Championship.
Finals will be for the National Title.
That means Conference Champions will play against the top 12 in the BCS Rankings.
You can't go wrong there....
“LOL it's like I am tired of the SEC winning all of the National Championships. Give someone else a turn.... LOL....”
I know you don’t hear it much here in the SEC nation, but believe it or not this is a prevalent sentiment that I see on the boards and hear from those I speak with who are not SEC disciples. Look - Sporty: Here’s where I am on this:
*IMHO – there is no doubt that the SEC – from top to bottom in both divisions – has superior talent (in particular their DEPTH) in comparison to any other conference in college football. Especially in recent years, there is also no doubt that the top SEC teams have dominated college football.
*But fast forward to 2012 and this precise point in this college football season. Right now, you have three undefeated non-SEC teams at the top of the computer rankings and most polls. I agree with these rankings. These three teams have taken care of business on the field and have won all their games. Those teams – regardless of which conference they belong to – who are not undefeated DIDN’T. That’s a fact.
*Based on the SEC’s historical dominance, there exists OUTSIDE THE SEC strong sentiments that are anti-SEC. These sentiments are similar to those felt by non-Miami Heat/Lebron James fans in pro basketball, and non-NY Yankees fans in pro baseball. Believe it or not – there are a hell of a lot of people who would just like to see somebody other than an SEC team win a national championship once in awhile – ESPECIALLY when the polls, computers, and season circumstances warrant it. I believe you have this situation right now in the NCAA.
*My bottom line is that if two of the three (or all three) currently top rated teams win out, they deserve to play for the national championship. I also believe that if this occurs, there will be little “shouting” outside of the SEC nation that this situation was “unfair.” When you talk about “unfair,” let’s look at last year’s national championship game. Outside of the SEC, just about the entire college football sports nation would have preferred that two SEC teams NOT be in the national championship game. What did SEC fans say about it? They said essentially: “Too bad – that’s the way things are.”
*Well – now the worm has turned and the SEC is – right now – on the outside looking in. If GA, AL or LSU were undefeated, then – IMHO – that team (or those teams) would have a legitimate gripe. But they aren’t. And if things stay the way they are, they STILL won’t have a legitimate gripe. And the rest of the college football (non-SEC) nation will say: “Too bad – that’s the way things are.”
Most of the nation would LOVE a national championship game between an undefeated KState and an undefeated Notre Dame. As I said, I'm sure the TV ratings would be off the charts. The only people who would be unhappy would be SEC fans, because they weren't able to carve another national championship "notch" on their collective bedposts.
I've rooted for the Dawgs since 1981, and I pull for LSU when they're not playing the Dawgs. I LOVE the SEC. But I also try to keep an open mind and the blinders off when it comes to other teams around the nation and the balance of power. Right now - as demonstrated by TX A&M - I don't think it's "the SEC and everybody else." The national human polls don't reflect this, nor do the computers. That's all I'm saying.
There are still several weeks left in the regular season. KState has a week off after Baylor to prepare for their home game with Texas. I fully expect KState to take care of business - especially if Klein stays healthy. The next likely team to win out is Notre Dame. Oregon has the toughest road to zero losses, and I can see them stumbling one time. Unfortunately - the way things are now is that if the other two win their remaining games, Oregon would be OUT.
If KState and Notre Dame win out, I see no valid reason for any of the SEC teams with one or more losses to leap-frog over them into the national championship game.
"*My bottom line is that if two of the three (or all three) currently top rated teams win out, they deserve to play for the national championship."
You put on a great case that I can't argue with sebekm. My arguement is if they are not undefeated, (all three undefeated teams losing at least one game) then the winner out of the Georgia- Alabama SEC Championship game should play for the BCS National Championship Game in Miami January 7, 2013. No Doubt about it.
Now I can accept the fact that Alabama was upset by another SEC team, Texas A&M at their home,but it does not mean that they are out of the picture.
"Most of the nation would LOVE a national championship game between an undefeated KState and an undefeated Notre Dame."
Wont happen. I really don't believe Notre Dame will beat USC on the road. They are the least out of the undefeated three teams that are expected to play for the National Championship.
But again yes, I can't argue against a team being undefeated. But if those undefeated teams lose a game, and they will, then you will definitely hear me saying Georgia or Alabama (the winner out of the two)or Florida (one loss)
Yes - I think I wasn't clear enough in my earlier posts as to my position. I meant that if two out of the current top three win out. I'm glad we're now on the same wavelength on this.
And yes - Notre Dame is not a shoe-in against USC, but my son attended the Oregon-USC game a couple of weeks ago, and he was able to see first hand that neither of those teams really has a defense. Notre Dame has a freshman quarterback who is great at times and is a freshman at times. It is "iffy" for them, but as I said my sense is that ND has an easier road to being undefeated than Oregon. That's all I was saying. ND may pull it out of their rear ends again - they seem to have the "magic" this year.
It IS very interesting this year, though. Last year's national championship did serve one useful purpose: it got them to SERIOUSLY consider a post season playoff system. Without the AL-LSU rematch and the outcry that surrounded it, the PTB probably would have kicked the can down the road for another 10 years before getting serious.
Kind of like our federal government with the budget deficit and the national debt....
"My arguement is if they are not undefeated, (all three undefeated teams losing at least one game) then the winner out of the Georgia- Alabama SEC Championship game should play for the BCS National Championship Game in Miami January 7, 2013. No Doubt about it."
Yes - absolutely - no doubt about it - as long as that winner only has ONE loss. KState has Baylor this weekend and ND has Wake Forest. KS and ND are HEAVY favorites to win these two games. After that, they only have TX and USC left on their respective schedules. They both *could* stumble in those games, but I think it is more likely that Oregon will slip up against either Stanford, Oregon State, or in the PAC-12 championship game (I think that will be against the winner of the USC-UCLA game).
Texas gave up 48 points to West Virginia and 63 points to Oklahoma in losses to those teams earlier this season. Kansas State beat BOTH of those teams ON THE ROAD - scoring 79 total points and only giving up 33 total points. At the time KState beat WV, the Mountaineers were averaging more than 50 points per game and their Quarterback was being touted as a likely Heismann trophy winner. Since then WV hasn't won a game and the Heismann focus has shifted to KState's QB - Collin Klein (a.k.a. "Tebow II"). Since giving up 48 points to West Virginia on October 6th, TX has won all their games, but except for TX Tech they beat the "doormats" of the Big 12. So I wouldn't overestimate TX' ability to be spoilers when they play KState in Manhattan, KS on December 1st. It COULD happen, but I can't imagine Bill Snyder and that seasoned crew letting it slip away. They won 10 games last year, seven or eight of which they won by only 7 points or less. They are battle tested; the nucleus has been together for awhile; they have talent; and this year they also seem to have the "magic."
In all of the three teams Oregon, Kansas State, and Notre Dame,they ALL have good quarterbacks, and receivers to catch the pass. That West Coast Offense is all about the pass. No Defense. That is why you see such high scoring games between teams. Myself, I am not impressed with those basketball scores as it only relates to no defense. Too include the Conference that they play in, the Big 12, Pac 12, and Independent. No Defense in any of them. But I would give the Big 12 a little when it comes to Defense. Just a little. Nothing compared to the SEC Conference. In the SEC Conference, the games played in the SEC are worth the price of admission.
If you see Oregon and Kansas State in the BCSNCG (Bowl Championship Series National Championship Game)you will only see high powered offenses and no defense. Hell if I wanted to see a basketball score I would watch the Miami Heat dismantle basketball teams with high scores. I want to see a hard hitting game between two great teams with great offenses and great defenses. That is REAL FOOTBALL. I am not impressed by a score of 84-0 or 72-56 or 62- 51. That is boring. You could pretty much tell who is going to win. I am willing to bet that if any of the three teams play Alabama or Georgia, that high scoring game will cease immediately, and I am willing to bet that either of the three teams especially Notre dame wont get 20 points on the board.
KState has a defense. I've been watching them - every game - all year, and their defense has shut down the highest scoring offenses in the Big 12. They have given up an average of under 18 points per game, and that number isn't attibuted entirely to their defense as they have had a couple of touchdown returns and a pick-six or two. So their defense is actually only giving up about two touchdowns per game. They are the only team in the Big 12 that doesn't have a Big 12 defense (i.e., NONE).
KState has actually given ups fewer offensive touchdowns (20) than either the Dawgs (23) or South Carolina (21), and is tied with LSU (20). They only give up an average of 19 yards per game more than the Dawgs defense, despite being on the field for more plays than either the Dawgs, South Carolina, or LSU.
In sum, KState does not have your typical Big 12 defense, and they have shut down several hot offenses (i.e., WV, OK) when they were hot.
Notre Dame's defense is currently ranked No. 8 in the nation - ahead of both the Dawgs and South Carolina.
In sum, Texas A&M showed what a high-tempo, Big 12-pedigree offense could do to a top SEC defense last week - by putting up more than 400 yards of total offense and winning the stats war in first downs, rushing yards, third down conversions, and time of possession. PLUS, the TX A&M Big 12-pedigree defense won the turnover battle with Alabama 3-0 and they also led the game in "knockouts" (a dubious distinction but one I've noted ever since watching those Chicago Bears teams of the late 60s with Butkus and the 80s with Singletary, Wilson, Hampton and Dent).
The bottom line: At least as far as KState and Notre Dame go - at THIS POINT in THIS SEASON:
It ain't the SEC and everybody else no more.
Since we don't have a playoff system this year, we won't know how ND or KState will do vs. an SEC team unless they screw up and lose a game, and are matched up against one of the SEC's "top defenses" (AL, LSU, GA, FL) in a bowl game. So to argue it here and now is meaningless and moot.
I for one am enjoying the way this season has gone thus far, as I ordinarily pull for the SEC teams but I am not wedded to their domination of NCAA football (i.e., I don't lose any sleep over their losses - unlike some of the LSU, AL and GA fanATICS I have known personally and professionally over the years).
Plus this year there's an added bonus: My son IS a college football fanatic who eats, sleeps, lives and dies based on the success of his (singular) team. His multiple assignments to military installations in Kansas has made him a KState freak. So I'm having a great time listening to him (long-distance in AK) going crazy about how well his team is doing this year. So as you can see, this isn't the usual year for me - as I would hate to see my son disappointed for what would literally and undoubtedly be a "once-in-a-lifetime" experience for his team to play (and perhaps win) a national championship.
(But I keep telling him - if they lose Klein, they are in big doo-doo, just like the Bears when Cutler goes down.)
Yep. The SI cover does it every time.
What I would do regarding this matter is to check with IKY. He is usually on the money about these things.
"Notre Dame's defense is currently ranked No. 8 in the nation - ahead of both the Dawgs and South Carolina."
That's because they have not played against any SEC Teams.... :-)
"In sum, Texas A&M showed what a high-tempo, Big 12-pedigree offense could do to a top SEC defense last week - by putting up more than 400 yards of total offense and winning the stats war in first downs, rushing yards, third down conversions, and time of possession. PLUS, the TX A&M Big 12-pedigree defense won the turnover battle with Alabama 3-0 and they also led the game in "knockouts" (a dubious distinction but one I've noted ever since watching those Chicago Bears teams of the late 60s with Butkus and the 80s with Singletary, Wilson, Hampton and Dent)."
As far as Texas A&M Beating Alabama, that does not set a barometer as to how the SEC is in Defense.
May I remind you that Florida beat Texas A&M at College Station, and LSU Beat them as well. Two SEC Loses.
I said it before, and I will say it again. On any given Saturday, an SEC Team can upset another SEC Team. In addition, I will also say this again that NO TEAM OUTSIDE THE SEC CONFERENCE CAN BEAT ANY SEC TOP 10 TEAM!!!
"It ain't the SEC and everybody else no more."
Enjoy the short ride for now my friend.
You along with your Big 12 Pac 12 and Independent Teams will painfully learn that the SEC Dominates in Football.
Yes It is still the SEC Conference and everybody else in football.....
History says Oregon won't win national title
Nov 8, 2012 9:50 AM
By ESPN Stats & Information
Five great nuggets of information to get you ready for the weekend in college football.
1. Oregon allowed 51 points last week to USC, but won and kept its national championship hopes alive. In the AP Poll Era (since 1936), no team allowed at least 51 points in any game during a season in which it won the national championship. Only one national champion allowed at least 50 in a game. In 2007, LSU lost to Arkansas 50-48, but that game went three overtimes. LSU came back to win the SEC Championship Game and BCS Championship Game.
"LSU Beats Oregon, 40-27, In Battle Of Top College Football Teams"!!!
They played them in September 2011.
Remember that high powered offense of Oregon?
"That's because they have not played against any SEC Teams.... :-)"
I could say that the SEC teams' are ranked so high because they haven't played any of the current top 3 teams. The comparisons are irrelevant and moot - except that a Big-12 pedigree team just beat an #1 ranked SEC in that team's home stadium. That's a fact and now the SEC is on the outside looking in. I find it refreshing. If things play out as I expect, my hunch is that it will open up recruiting a bit so that more blue chip players will find it more attractive to play closer to home, or with the teams that they are now seeing on national television playing for high stakes. After all, that's what it's REALLY all about, isn't it? Who gets the top recruits is the name of the game. Things like bragging rights just follow along. What the SEC should REALLY be concerned with is the effect that national prominence of non-SEC teams might have on their recruiting efforts. Oh, they'll probably continue to get the "home grown" talent, but the best kids from out west, the midwest, and the northeast just might prefer to play closer to home - making a dent in the talent and depth advantage the SEC now experiences.
Everything runs in cycles. IMHO - the upcoming playoff system will serve to "tell the truth" on the actual status of NCAA football power when it goes into effect. They we can dispense (somewhat) with the idle speculation about who "might" or "probably" or "definitely" would beat who.
But in any case, nothing matters now but what happens on the field. We'll all watch, and we'll all see. I AM enjoying the short ride - if that's what it will be - just as I suggest that the 51% enjoy the next four years.
Let the good times roll!
"2010 Auburn 22 Oregon 19 BCS National Championship Game...."
Not exactly a blow-out, was it? As I say, all things run in cycles. The SEC has had a great run. Perhaps it will continue. If so, good for the conference, and good for their fans. But variety is the spice of life - even in sports - and just as in local politics, I think that a change in the status quo is always a healthy thing. I understand the desire of SEC fanATICS to perpetuate the status quo, but this year might - JUST MIGHT - signal that this particular cycle is coming to an end. Only time will tell.
In the meantime, I plan to enjoy the games.
As for the 10 reasons the BCS needs the SEC, it's propaganda written by a SEC fanATIC. Here's the biography of the author. He's obviously not a neutral or unbiased commentator, and is actually a featured columnist for the Alabama Crimson Tide. His "credentials" include:
*He "loves Alabama football"
*His favorite athletes include Mark Ingram, Tim Tebow, and Trent Richardson
*His favorite sports teams include the Alabama Crimson Tide and the SEC in general; and
*His favorite coaches include Nick Saban and Paul "Bear" Bryant.
Need I say more? This guy is a featured columnist whose compensation (if any) is for preaching to the SEC choir.
If I wanted to spend some time and be creative, I could easily come up with 10 reasons why SEC dominance is BAD for college football. But I'll leave it up to the same publication you linked to - the Bleacher Report - to make the case for me:
And here's somebody who makes a case that the SEC "dominance" is a but a "recent phenomenon" - supporting my case that things run in cycles:
"Yet SEC dominance is a very recent phenomenon.
Since the inception of the BCS, the SEC has been crowned national champion 57.14 percent of the time. That's a stunning turnaround when compared with an undisputed national title rate of 10.42 percent over the half-century prior.
So what's behind such a radical shift in fortune, such a statistical improbability?
It certainly isn't on-field performance. Judging by inter-conference records -- that is to say actual games as opposed to media guesswork and bestowed rankings -- the SEC plays other BCS conferences about equally. Witness the record since the start of the BCS era in 1998:
SEC vs. PAC-12 regular season: 10-12
SEC vs. PAC-12 bowl games: 1-0
SEC vs. Big 12 regular season: 6-10
SEC vs. Big 12 bowl games: 21-8
SEC vs. ACC regular season: 42-36
SEC vs. ACC bowl games: 16-9
SEC vs. Big 10 regular season: 7-4
SEC vs. Big 10 bowl games: 19-19
SEC vs. Big East regular season: 16-15
SEC vs. Big East bowl game: 3-8
The record is clear. In head-to-head match-ups against other major conferences, the SEC has either a combined losing record or one that's generally only a little better than even."
Truth or propaganda? You decide.
Here's the link to the article - titled " Why SEC Isn't As Great In Football As You Think" -
which contains the above quoted SEC-other BCS conference information:
IMHO - this article is just as "believable" as the one by the Alabama propagandist you cite.
The proof will be in the pudding. If an SEC team backs into the national championship game this year as a result of all the current top three teams losing, then good for them.
Otherwise, it just may be the start of something new.
Don't worry this curse won't apply to Klein.
K-State football player. Rolando Blackman was on the cover of SI in 1981 when the Cats beat undefeated Oregon State in the NCAA Tourney.
Coach Snyder will have Klein and the Cats grounded and ready for Baylor. Look for Cats to score 40+. Baylor may only score 17. No curses here, just cursing from Bama and ND for not being #1.
Hi IKY: I agree. But as a lifelong Chicago sports fan, I always expect the worst. After all, Chicago sports fans KNOW "curses."
The article at thepostgame.com also makes an argument that I alluded to in an earlier post: the SEC maintains an advantage in games - to include the bowls - by rarely straying from "home" (or at least home territory). Here's another quote from that article:
"To SEC apologists who claim that the SEC's overall winning records in bowl games is evidence of success in "games that matter" against "quality opponents," I offer the counter-argument that because bowl game pairings are more easily manipulated than regular-season games, and because SEC teams frequently play in bowls near home stadiums, they often result in more favorable match-ups for SEC teams.
This tilt renders postseason play a less valid measure of strength than the more random sampling of results produced by regular season games.
In 2012, for instance, the SEC was able to even its BCS bowl record against the Big Ten at 19-19 when the Florida Gators beat Ohio State in the none-too-partisan Gator Bowl. The game was played in Jacksonville. No bowl games are played in Ohio.
So, if the SEC plays other conferences about even, why do SEC teams keep winning national championships?
That answer, of course, is the BCS and its corporate underwriters, who have created a reliable business model for determining national champions that is in all respects a self-fulfilling prophecy designed to protect its primary investment.
The BCS business plan works like this: preseason rankings typically include two, three, or four SEC teams among the nation's top ten, more than from any other conference. From the outset, this bias for SEC teams builds into the system a near insurmountable advantage.
Start the season with two of the top four teams being from the SEC, as was the case in 2010 with Alabama and Florida, and in 2011 with Alabama and LSU, and the conference is virtually guaranteed to be represented in the title game -- and this is an important point -- even if neither of those two schools end up winning the conference.
To be the best, so goes to the old sports adage, you've got to beat the best. But since only SEC teams are consistently declared the best, only SEC teams get the chance to prove themselves against "the best." It's a chicken-or-the-egg situation. Does the SEC get favorable rankings because it's so good? Or is the SEC so good because it gets favorable rankings? I argue for the latter."
On its face, it sounds like propaganda to me. But if so, it's no more propaganda than a lot of the arguments I see which declare SEC "dominance" using THEIR OWN "facts" and historical results.
I actually think that a playoff system might NOT be such a good thing for those who desire the perpetuation of SEC dominance. I'd also like to see the NCAA compel more inter-conference play, and require teams like Alabama, LSU and Georgia to play in December at such northern or midwest "cold weather" sites as South Bend, IN; Eugene, OR; Manhattan, Kansas, Columbus, Ohio, or even at Soldier Field in Chicago or where the Wisconsin Badgers play their home games. To allow the SEC to play a minimal inter-conference schedule in which they play most of their games in home stadiums -coupled with most of the post season bowl games being played in SEC or "southern" states - IMHO - DOES "tilt" the playing field toward the SEC.
It will be interesting to see what the playoff system produces.
My picks for this weekend.
Kansas State 40, Baylor 27.
Oregon 48, Stanford 21.
Washington 44, Colorado 20.
Nebraska 31, Minnesota 13.
Penn State 31, Indiana 16.
Miami 31, South Florida 17.
Oklahoma State 38, Texas Tech 24.
Florida State 41, Maryland 0.
Notre Dame 31, Wake Forest 10.
Alabama 41 W. Carolina 0.
Texas A&M 48 Sam Houston St 10.
Georgia 44 Ga. Southern 14.
Arkansas St 37 Troy 34.
"Truth or propaganda? You decide."
A little bit of both.... However; the proof is in the rankings. SEC Dominates in the Top 10 Rankings....
"The comparisons are irrelevant and moot - except that a Big-12 pedigree team just beat an #1 ranked SEC in that team's home stadium."
UNTRUE!!!!! Texas A&M are in the SEC Conference, not the Big 12.....
Here is one for you. From 2000-2009
1. SEC (12-3) .800 winning pct.
2. PAC 10 (9-3) .750 winning pct.
3. MWC (2-1) .667 winning pct.
3. WAC (2-1) .667 winning pct.
5. Big East (6-4) .600 winning pct.
6. Big 12 (6-9) .400 winning pct.
7. Big 10 (6-11) .353 winning pct.
8. ACC (1-9) .100 winning pct.
9. Conference USA (0-0) .000 winning pct.
9. MAC (0-0) .000 winning pct.
9. Sunbelt (0-0) .000 winning pct.
Record as ranked teams
"A little bit of both.... However; the proof is in the rankings. SEC Dominates in the Top 10 Rankings...."
But not the top 3, eh?
"Texas A&M are in the SEC Conference, not the Big 12....."
This year they are. But they beat AL with a freshman QB and a team that was recruited when A&M was NOT in the SEC. They played a Big 12 "style" of offense in running up a 20-0 lead in the first quarter of that game, and their "sorry" Big 12 pedigree defense held the lead and enabled a big underdog to win on the road against a #1 nationally ranked SEC team.
Them's the facts. But going forward is all that matters, right? I mean, Green Bay Packers fans can hoot about their 13 NFL championships, and Bears' fans can holler about their 9. But it's this season - and the future under the playoff system - that matters, no?
It's great to live in the past, but as they say in the stock market:
Past performance is not a predictor of future results.
The same holds true on the football field. It always be "show me." I say: let's get the SEC away from home; out of their close-to-home, warm weather sites; playing in the conditions that the Big 12, PAC 12, Big 10 and ACC regularly have to play in - and let's see how it goes.
Get the SEC away from "homey-type" post season bowl games played in Florida, Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, and other southern states - where they have favorable climatic conditions and overwhelming local fan support - and let's see how they do. I think they ought to schedule some of those major NCAA playoff games in places like New York and - if they must have "good weather - put them in the domes in Detroit and Indianapolis. But let's see how the SEC does when it has to play some road games for a change in conditions that are as unfavorable as most of their opponents have had to play under in those "southern state" post season bowls the SEC teams normally play in.
" Does the SEC get favorable rankings because it's so good? Or is the SEC so good because it gets favorable rankings? "
I take the First Part.....
There are a lot of freshman Quarterbacks that are very good. But the Quarterback does not win games alone.
As for the BCS bowls, that is EXACTLY my - and the thepostgame.com's point. Factoring in the "tilt" and the regular season results, you get what you have (maybe).
IKY: I agree with all of your picks (they match mine on the ESPN college pick-ems), and the scores are anybody's guess as well.
"Get the SEC away from "homey-type" post season bowl games played in Florida, Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, and other southern states - where they have favorable climatic conditions and overwhelming local fan support - and let's see how they do. I think they ought to schedule some of those major NCAA playoff games in places like New York and - if they must have "good weather - put them in the domes in Detroit and Indianapolis. But let's see how the SEC does when it has to play some road games for a change in conditions that are as unfavorable as most of their opponents have had to play under in those "southern state" post season bowls the SEC teams normally play in."
Its not the SEC fault because they are scheduled to play in the South in Bowl games. That's just the way it is. But the SEC is strong and Dominant that it does not matter where they play. The results will be the same. That is win...
"There are a lot of freshman Quarterbacks that are very good. But the Quarterback does not win games alone."
No, but as I said, THIS freshman QB did, and he was recruited while A&M was a Big 12 team. And he ran a Big 12 style offense and was supported by a Big 12 "sorry" defense - on the road - against a pedigree SEC team currently ranked #1 in the nation.
Sporty: you can twist and turn all you want, but DEM'S THE FACTS. Now the SEC is on the outside looking in. If they get lucky and two out of three (or all three) top 3 teams lose, they may back in to the national championship game. AL certainly didn't do anything to harm their post season chances by scheduling a cream-puff team like West Carolina late in their season while the other teams are playing the likes of Texas, USC, Stanford and Oregon State.
"Its not the SEC fault because they are scheduled to play in the South in Bowl games. That's just the way it is. But the SEC is strong and Dominant that it does not matter where they play. The results will be the same. That is win."
No, it's not their fault, but they benefit from the situation - there is no doubt. We'll see what happens in the playoffs, but I believe they will be played in predominantly southern states as well. LOCATION DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. For years, SEC teams have been essentially playing "home games" when the others are on the road. HOSTILE FAN CONDITIONS MATTER. Ask any "southern" NFL team that has to play in New England, Wisconsin, Minnesota, in December whether it makes a difference. NFL teams who play in domes or in southern sites have horrible records when they have to go "up north." It's a similar situation when SEC teams get to play in conditions THEY are used to, in front of fans who are either their own or who are favorable to them based on geography.
We'll never know, but I don't believe that the results will be the same. But at least the playoffs will change SOME of the NCAA landscape. That's a move in the right direction.
...and now, Sporty, you can have the last word - FOR NOW. Time to do chores and real world stuff.
It's been fun; all the best.
Not much defense being played in the Big 12 tonite - and a whole lot of crying going on in Manhattan, KS. (and in AK). New #1 coming up & OR is being put to the test.
....and there it is. Things are falling for the SEC (at least for tonite) and the Dawgs are lookin' good.
Bengals over Chiefs.
Packers over Lions.
Cowboys over Browns.
Falcons over Cardinals.
Texans over Jaguars.
"...and now, Sporty, you can have the last word - FOR NOW."
Well Thank you sebekm. Pretty nice of you to give me the last word.
Let me start off by saying, your ride was short. Very short that is. LOL...
I told you so. Now we have Notre Dame who will lose next week to Southern Cal.
That makes this very interesting. One thing that I now know. Looks like no matter what, an SEC Team will be playing someone for the National Title.
If Notre Dame loses next week, then guess what? You will have Alabama or Georgia being ranked number 1 and number 2. This afternnon, when the official rankings come out, you will surely see, Alabama being ranked number 2 or number 3 or Georgia being ranked number 2 or three.
Here we go again, YOU HAVE THE SEC CONFERENCE AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!
This could be another repeated style of last year.
Either Alabama or Georgia vs Florida for the BCS National Title.
Hi Sporty: Actually, the last word was for Friday BEFORE the games. And as to my "short ride," I wasn't really riding anything - I was enjoying the competition - which I still am. (As stated above, my son ISN'T - but he's been riding with his team all year.)
You deserve to say "I told you so," but I'm not sure what you're telling me. In my posts, all I said was if the top three remain unbeaten, the SEC was on the outside looking in. I also said that I thought that was refreshing and good for college football. I still feel that way - so for me nothing has changed. The only obvious difference now is that two of the previously undefeated top three teams AREN'T any more. I never discounted that possibility, and I also said that I regularly pull for the SEC.
And you're right - if ND goes down and the SEC teams win - then you will once again have the polls reflecting the SEC and everybody else. But IMHO that doesn't resolve the issues I raised in my posts about their schedules, where they play their toughest games, and where the bowls are located in relation to "SEC country."
Yes - it very well could by another repeated style of last year, but I hope not. As stated by several of the talking heads on the broadcast of the games last night: it's best when all regions of the country are involved in the national championship chase down to the wire, and you have representation from more than one conference in the title game. Obviously, both teams have to earn it on the field.
Last night, KState didn't appear to be mentally prepared for the game. Baylor exploited their weaknesses - especially the absence of Zimmerman - and the home team was motivated by a chance to knock off #1 and have a "successful" season. They took advantage of the situation marvelously, and KState simply did not appear ready for prime time as #1. I'll also point out that they lost their first game of the season on the road when playing the #1 ranked offense in the nation. That's the same offense which produced last year's Heismann Trophy winner. (There's also that "SI curse" thing.)
As to Oregon, I said repeatedly that they had the most difficult road to remaining undefeated. It played out earlier than I expected, but I am not surprised that they lost.
From the schedule, by season's end it also appears that:
*Either GA or AL will have two losses.
*Either FL or FL State will have two losses.
*If Oregon beats OR State next week, they will only have 1 loss.
*If KState beats TX in two weeks (after their bye next week) they will only have one loss.
*If ND loses next week, they will end up their season with only one loss.
Obviously, the losses near the end of the season "mean more" than those near the beginning (which obvoiusly the SEC understands very well when the Dawgs schedule GSU; AL schedules West Carolina; and Florida schedules Jacksonville State as the second to last games of their regular seasons).
"You deserve to say "I told you so," but I'm not sure what you're telling me. In my posts, all I said was if the top three remain unbeaten, the SEC was on the outside looking in."
Okay I told you so means that the SEC will be right back in the National Championship Picture. I told you so mean that Those three undefeated teams that were 1 2 and 3 would lose at least one game. I also stated that Oregon would lose to Standford and or Oregon State. I was absolutely correct so far. I stated that Notree Dame would beat Wake Forest but they will lose to Southern Cal at Southern Cal. Next week.
You did not think that an SEC Team would be playing for the National Championship this year, but will be on the outside looking in.
You stated that:
"It ain't the SEC and everybody else no more."
"Enjoy the short ride for now my friend."
I also stated:
"You along with your Big 12 Pac 12 and Independent Teams will painfully learn that the SEC Dominates in Football."
Again I stated:
"Yes It is still the SEC Conference and everybody else in football....."
I also Stated:
"This could be another repeated style of last year.
"Either Alabama or Georgia vs Florida for the BCS National Title."
I again stand by it.
"From the schedule, by season's end it also appears that:
*Either GA or AL will have two losses.
*Either FL or FL State will have two losses.
*If Oregon beats OR State next week, they will only have 1 loss.
*If KState beats TX in two weeks (after their bye next week) they will only have one loss.
*If ND loses next week, they will end up their season with only one loss.
Obviously, the losses near the end of the season "mean more" than those near the beginning (which obvoiusly the SEC understands very well when the Dawgs schedule GSU; AL schedules West Carolina; and Florida schedules Jacksonville State as the second to last games of their regular seasons)."
I will state that Georgia did play a FCS team who was ranked #6 in the country. They played Georgia a pretty good game in the first half, but the 2nd half mainly the third quarter, Georgia took over and demolished the GSU Eagles. The entire 4th quarter Aaron Murray along with the running backs and other first team offense rested the entire 4th quarter and gave the backup playing time. The Final Score 45-10.
As far as the losses goes with Alabama, Florida, and Georgia, I will say that Florida is going to beat Flortda State. Florida's Defense is far superiour than Florida State's Offense, and Florida State's Defense. Florida will win this game, and Florida willfinish the regular season with one loss being 11-1 Major BCS Bowl appearance is inevitable.
Georgia will beat Georgia Tech hands down with their triple option offense.
Alabama will beat Auburn hands down as well.
Alabama will come to Atlanta, and meet Georgia at the Georgia Dome, the SEC Western Division Champions Alabama vs the SEC Eastern Division Champions Georgia for the SEC Championship.
Here is my BOLD Prediction:
No doubt that the winner out of the Alabama / Georgia Title game will be in the BCS National Championship Game. My question is will they face. Unless Oregon can some how jump over Florida in the BCS Polls, (I don't believe it will) the Florida Gators will be the #2 slot to play againt either the Georgia Bulldogs or the Alabama Crimson Tide for the BCS National Championship Game on January 7, 2012 in Miami, Florida.
My goodness, I just love this SEC Football, and Football in general. I can watch it year round. LOL....
Sebekm, SEC Dominance.
YOU HAVE THE SEC CONFERENCE, AND THEN EVERBODY ELSE!!!!!!! LOL....
If Notre Dame loses to Southern Cal next week, you can expect this in the Polls:
Or if Georgia Beats Georgia Tech badly scoring more than 45 points or more, and the Georgia Defense shut down the Georgia Tech Offense totally, then you may very well see this:
"You did not think that an SEC Team would be playing for the National Championship this year, but will be on the outside looking in."
Uh, not exactly. There is a difference between not thinking that an SEC team would be playing for the national championship this year and HOPING THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE. That was what I was saying: that I thought it would be more interesting and a refreshing change if one of the previously undefeated teams (and ND) would be in the game. I never "predicted" that an SEC team wouldn't be in the championship game. Read my posts carefully.
As far as the SEC and everybody else: it may play out that way, but that's the way it works. I think the success of TX A&M against SEC competition - just look at the points their Big 12 pedigree offense put up against their SEC competition this season:
signals a shift in the balance of power in NCAA football. You may not see it play out fully this year, but I believe the success of non-SEC teams will enhance their recuiting and the playoff system will further amplify this effect.
The SEC has had undeniable success over the past decade. Until that changes - ON THE FIELD - the status quo will be maintained. But I do sense a shift and I am looking for (as in "it is my preference that there is") a more balanced level of play across the country.
We can predict now all we want - let's see how the games play out. I will enjoy the games regardless. If there are two SEC teams in the national championship game this year, then obviously that's great for SEC fans - but I believe that it would be better for college football as a whole if there ISN'T.
One other thing: Note that neither Oregon or KState lost to an SEC team this past weekend. So their losses PROVE NOTHING as to whether this makes them "inferior" to the SEC. Alabama and the Dawgs rolled over teams which were essentially "cupcake competition," which does maintain the illusion of their superiority (if that's what it is), while KSU and OR played the #1 offense in college football and a Top 10, nationally ranked team respectively.
So just as I can "wish" for a national championship game without two SEC teams, you can "wish" that it's still the SEC and everybody else. Maybe it is - but as far as the latter goes, last weekend proved nothing. If KSU and OR were playing head to head with two SEC teams, that would be different. Last time I checked, they all still have only one loss (except ND). If KState and Oregon win their final games, they will only have one loss and either GA/AL and FL/FL State will have two.
"I think it's more likely that Oregon or Notre Dame will slip up."
"But my hunch is that the national championship game will be between KState and Notre Dame. I could be wrong - I've been wrong before.
...in my Nov 13 post.
Please forgive me for not taking your word on every prediction you make - and don't confuse my HOPING for an outcome other than the one you'd like as not agreeing with you that it MIGHT happen. I'd just like to see something else, that's all. Reasonable people can disagree, and the proof will be what happens on the field.
Either way, I'll still enjoy the games.
You are wrong this time sebekm....
My calculations, and hunch usually are correct. Most of the time, I am right on the money......
What am I wrong about? Am I wrong to HOPE that things will turn out differently? How can I make that clearer to you?
It was stated on ESPN that if Notre Dame played Georgia, Alabama, or Florida, they would lose by 10 points.
Just for the record not bragging or anything but I went 11 - 1 NCAAF and 5 - 0 on the NFL.
My picks for this weekend.
Kansas State 40, Baylor 27. Lost
Washington 44, Colorado 20. Won
Nebraska 31, Minnesota 13. Won
Penn State 31, Indiana 16. Won
Miami 31, South Florida 17. Won
Oklahoma State 38, Texas Tech 24. Won
Florida State 41, Maryland 0. Won
Notre Dame 31, Wake Forest 10. Won
Alabama 41 W. Carolina 0. Won
Texas A&M 48 Sam Houston St 10. Won
Georgia 44 Ga. Southern 14. Won
Arkansas St 37 Troy 34. Won
Bengals over Chiefs. Won
Packers over Lions. Won
Cowboys over Browns. Won
Falcons over Cardinals. Won
Texans over Jaguars. Won
So? I watch ESPN as well, and they have "prognosticators" who are all over the place. Let's see how the games play out on the field, that's all I'm saying. Over the past 10 years, the SEC has done a very good job in preparation for bowl games. I'll add - again - that they have more than a month to prepare; most of those games are played at locations which make them in effect a home game for the SEC team; and the SEC participant has had superior talent and superior depth. That combination is awfully tough to beat. And it is in the SEC's best interest to maintain this situation - as it's all about the bucks, right? So it is understandable that they want to perpetuate the status quo, because without it they aren't in as strong a position for recruiting and the competitive level might REALLY even out.
So let them play the games and let's see what happens. As far the series beteween ND and SEC teams, my research indicates that Notre Dame lead the series 42-32-5. But that's ancient history. It's nice to talk about, but it's really meaningless - right?
I'm still pulling for any other combination than a duplication of last year. Another argument for this is here:
...and the prognosticators at USATODAY.com "predict" that there are still six teams which have a "realistic shot" at a BCS championship game berth. They give the "case for" and the "case against" each team. From the tone and tenor of this article, THEY don't believe it's the SEC and everybody else:
So as far as ESPN predictors go, I watch them on Saturday, too, and you can pick and choose from opposing sides almost all the time. Just check out Lou Holtz and Mark May. I believe that either you or I have just as much chance of "picking winners" as they do.
IKY: That's good stuff. I didn't do nearly as well on the ESPN college and pigskin pick'em sites that my son and I collaborate on. Obviously, we blew it with KSU and OR, but Brigham Young, TX Tech and Cincinnati also let us down on the college side. On the pro side, we got 'em all right (so far) except BUF-MIA and STL-NYJ.
"...and the prognosticators at USATODAY.com "predict" that there are still six teams which have a "realistic shot" at a BCS championship game berth. They give the "case for" and the "case against" each team. From the tone and tenor of this article, THEY don't believe it's the SEC and everybody else:"
In their world maybe to them. But Statiscally in the last six years at least shows differently. Look at the last six years, and now look at this year as well. My calculations show me as so stated previously.
* If Notre Dame loses to Southern Cal.
Georgia Florida and Alabama will win this weekend. The results will be in the above order. What are your thoughts?
If Notre Dame wins out at Southern Cal,
Then you will have this order after Sunday BCS Rankings:
After the SEC Championship Game
Georgia Or Alabama
Georgia Or Alabama will play Notre Dame in Miami For the BCS National Championship.
I certainly hope that Georgia beat Alabama.
It will then be a repeat of 1980 Georgia vs Notre Dame for the BCS National Championship.
But their are a lot of scenarios here:
If Notre Dame loses this week, then again you will have Georgia or Alabama playing Florida for the National Championship in Miami, provided that Florida beat Florida State in Tallahassee.
If not, then it will leave it open for Oregon to get in to play the SEC Champion in the BCS National Championship Game. ( But that is ONLY if Notre Dame and Florida Loses)
Lots of scenarios out there for this week. But I don't think that Florida, Georgia, or Alabama will lose. Again if all three SEC Teams win out the regular (which I believe will happen) then you will have two possibilities:
Notre Dame wins out you have this order in the BCS Rankings:
1. Notre Dame
If Notre Dame Loses this weekend:
They aren't looking at the last six years. They are looking at this year - which we should also be looking at. Everything else is ancient history.
I can't see Alabama losing to Auburn. I also expect Georgia to take care of business against GA Tech. But these are the rivalry games - just like OR-OR State (which OR might lose). But I can't see GA or AL losing.
As for FL-FL State, that's another story. The Gators go to Tallahassee to play a Seminole team which is currently averaging nearly 43 points per game and is only giving up an average of 13 points per game. I think it is very possible that FL State will win this game.
I am pulling for ND to beat USC, but I still see this as a "pick'em" because you're never sure what USC team will show up. USC is at home, but Barley is OUT. With everything at stake, you would think that ND would be ready, right? Well - that's what I thought with KState the other day. I'd like ND to win, but I can't say that I would "predict" their victory.
Look - Sporty - I'm really not "arguing" with you. I'm just pointing out the other side of the story, and am stating my own preferences in the deal. With the KSU and OR losses, the SEC appears to be in the driver's seat as far as making their case. The others have to take care of business, but have tougher opponents than the likes of Auburn and GA Tech. And their losses are coming at the end of the season, where their competition is tougher and the SEC teams (except FL), which have easier competition (on paper).
I still see KState beating Texas. If not, it would be an uncharacteristic collapse of a Bill Snyder-coached team. Texas doesn't have Baylor's offensive manpower or system, and the #1 pressure will be off KState at home. It may turn out to be a squeaker, but I still expect KState to win.
All season long, I've been telling my son that it was likely that Oregon would NOT go undefeated, especially because they had that "Civil War" game with Oregon State at the end of their regular season. Oregon State - at home - IMHO has a great shot to knock off Oregon. True, Oregon will be stinging from the Stanford loss, but there's something about the OR-OR State rivalry that leads me to a "hunch" that Oregon State might pull off an upset.
I know you are not arguing with me. I just like a good debate at which you are very good at. Very smart debater too. :-) You keep the Sports Blog very interesting.
If ND AND KState win this weekend and FL AND OR lose, you might have THIS:
Then you would have AL -GA in the SEC Championship game, in which one would lose.
This would probably leave ND as a lock and a choice between the AL-GA winner and KState. My hunch there - based on how the games would likely play out and the national sentiment - would probably be ND vs. the SEC champion.
That what I think is likely to happen. What am I HOPING for?
No change there - ND vs. KState. But that's just a wish which will probably never happen. (Remember, I'm biased here - I'd like to see my son be happy.)
Thanks, Sporty. You are on the money with your arguments. But you're right - you can't have a debate without there being two sides. Thanks for doing your part. Good stuff.
"All season long, I've been telling my son that it was likely that Oregon would NOT go undefeated, especially because they had that "Civil War" game with Oregon State at the end of their regular season. Oregon State - at home - IMHO has a great shot to knock off Oregon. True, Oregon will be stinging from the Stanford loss, but there's something about the OR-OR State rivalry that leads me to a "hunch" that Oregon State might pull off an upset."
My thoughts of this all along was that Oregon was over-rated in playing against the teams in their conference.
I always stated that Oregon has an high powered explosive offense. That is good for the PAC 12 Conference. I also stated that Oregon would either lose to Stanford and / or Oregon State and they will fall in the rankings. Furthermore; I stated that Kansas State will lose one game dropping them back as well.
I projected Notre Dame to lose against Southern Cal this week. All of these were just a hunch. However; it came out to be true with the exception of Notre dame where I stated that they would beat Wake Forest. I don't believe this week they will be Southern Cal at Southern. This will be an interesting wee in College Football.
It's all there for the taking for ND: Barkley is out; the USC season has been a failure (remember they were ranked preseason #1), and I believe Lane Kiffin is on his way out. Whether those players give 100% for him remains to be seen. It COULD be another LSU deal like last year's national championship game, where Miles refused to play Jarrett Lee and those other players based upon all of that dissension on that team. IMHO that was a big reason for LSU's poor showing.
BUT WHAT IF last year's national championship game had been between either AL/LSU and Oregon. Do you really think that Oregon wouldn't have been at a tremendous disadvantage with the game being played in New Orleans? I understand the rationale behind having these big-money post season games at locations where you don't have a sloppy game being "decided by the weather conditions," but that's football, isn't it?
In addition to a playoff system, I believe that the NCAA should also look into moving the playoff games out of the southeast and if necessary put them in domed stadiums around the country, so as to "level the playing field" as to the site locations. They should really try to make the games "site-neutral," so that neither team is playing a "home game." I realize that this might be tough to do in all cases, and those stadiums don't seat as many, which probably means it will never happen. But until that situation changes, you are always giving an advantage to teams from the southeast, who have their fan base in the region. The NCAA has it figured out for basketball, which is probably why you don't have such a clear-cut difference in the talent level by national region. But it's easier to day with basketball. Sure - kids gravitate to the NC teams, but you also have top talent playing in Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, California, and in the northeast as well. I think this is better for the sport, and their playoff system is something that you could never have in football (64+ teams that is).
You culd never under-estimate Southern Cal. Although they are coming off a lost and also losing Matt Barkley, their backup is just as good and this maybe a chance to really take over this Trojan Offense, and make a name for himself. You could never under-estimate Lane Kiffen either. Right now, he probably have the Trojan Offense and Defense so fired up now that since they are out of the National Championship picture, all that they want to do is be the spoiler for Notre Dame. Notre Dame will have no easy task in Pasadena in trying to win this game. When was the last time Notre Dame have actually beaten Southern Cal? The only team this year Notre Dame have beaten was one team ranked in the top 25.
As far as disadvantage in the venue of playing a Championship game. I don't think In my humble opinion that it matters at that point. That is win shreud coaching philosophy takes in effect. If I was a coach, and playing in foreign hostile territory for a National Championship, I would have my offense score quickly on the first possession of the ball, and then put my defense in to stop them at all cost. Do not allow that ball to cross the 50 yard line. That will take the air out of the fans and the opponents. Believe it or not, that first score on the board and making it quick spesaks volumes, and pyschology takes over an opponent.
As far as moving the games, well that is a story for debate within itself. Geographical Location is big for businesses. Tey invest revenue for locations that market the largest return on investment. History shows that the Southern States generates a lot of revenue and that is why they are played there. Not all of the Bowl games are located within a Dome Stadium as this years, National Championship games are held in Sunny Beautiful Miami, Florida. Inaddition, the Five Top BCS Bowls, Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Cotton Bowl, and Orange Bowl use to have the National Championship Game there. From the West Coast, to the East Coast and in between.
As far as the Playoff system Plus one, I dont know whether or not that will satisfy all on the crowning of a undisputed National Champion. We will just have to wait and see. In my opinion, I don't understand why don't they adopt the FCS Playoff system. But then again, I do understand partly. Becuase of investors.
The University Of Maryland has elected to leave the ACC Conference to head to the Big 10 Conference. Big East Conference Rutgers University maybe soon to follow.
Now Syracuse University can now have the opportunity to move to the ACC in which they have been trying to do for a few years now.
You have a much higher opinion of Kiffin and USC's backup quarterback than I do,that's for sure.
Actually, Notre Dame beat Oklahoma on the road when OK was ranked #8, and they beat Stanford when STAN was ranked #6. They also beat traditional Big 10 rivals Michigan and Michigan State, and they beat Miami. I realize that you might not think much of these teams, but they have historically been top 25 teams, and they compare VERY favorably with the likes of North Texas, Towson, Western Kentucky, West Carolina, Florida Atlantic, and Buffalo that LSU, Alabama, and the Dawgs played on their schedules.
As to venue, IT MATTERS - IMHO. When your games are played closed to home with the majority of your fans in the stands - not to mention the climate in the cities/towns OUTSIDE the stadiums - it matters.
I think plus one is a bad idea. They should either have a "Four Seed" or even an "Eight Seed" tournament. Eight seeded teams give you four additional games and four additional teams with a chance to win. Granted, there will always be the gripe about #5 or #9 not getting in, but you'll always have that.
But you're absolutely right about the investors. Money talks, for sure.
I saw the Maryland/Rutgers story. They were talking about it on Saturday during some of the games. I guess it's all about the money. Rather than teams moving around among the conferences, what I'd like to see is more INTER-conference play. I'd like to see Alabama, LSU, Florida and Georgia play Oregon, Stanford, Oklahoma, KState, Notre Dame DURING THE SEASON. I think at least two games every season out of conference for every traditional, nationally ranked team from every conference against another conference's top teams would be a good start. These games would replace the "cupcake" 50-0 games that typically litter the schedules of all of the top teams. Example: It's hard to understand why the folks at Savannah State would schedule OK State and FL State as the first two games on their schedule, but that's what happened this year. Not unexpectedly, SAV St. got killed in both games by a combined 139 to nothing. I guess it's all about the money, but this should never be allowed to happen. Take a look at all the top 10 teams, but especially the SEC teams. No schedules have as many "pushovers" relative to the competition as the SEC does. I say let's bring that more into line by replacing some of those games with contests with other teams that are likely to be in the top 25. Then we'll REALLY get a gauge of where the conferences stand in relation to each other. If the SEC kills everybody else in regular season play, then they can REALLY crow about it.
Those FCS Teams that the FBS Teams play against is for financial gain, notoriety, television exposure...
Georgia paid Georgia Southern $475,000.00 to play them.
A 16-game playoff would be great. I guess in the case of GA-GSU, the Dawgs want to promote in-state rivalries (ala GA Tech). I understand also that all the top teams might NOT want to have what they call a "brutal schedule" with a tough test every week. That's probably why you have what you have now. But I guess there's a chance for the occasional upset, but to have teams that are clearly outclassed, outweighed, outskilled, outspeeded (if that's a word) play against national powerhouses and get crushed 50-0 only serves as an enhanced "practice" for the top school teams. I guess you can have one or two of these at the start of the season, but after that the games should be competitive - i.e., no games that essentially constitute a walk-over to pad the win column and let the starters get a breather. The Big 12 and PAC 12 - as far as I can see - don't do this, as once they get into their conference schedule they only play intra-conference. Typically their conference games are tougher than the late-season walkovers that the top SEC teams play.
But I understand how it works: the SEC has a great thing going now and if I were their leadership, I wouldn't want to see much change either. I'd certainly not want the bowl games relocated/rotated to other parts of the country. I wouldn't be too thrilled about a playoff system, either. But why should they be? The current system has worked just fine and now the focus is primarily on the SEC and their success is what the HS stars see on TV playing in the big games. If I were the SEC, I wouldn't want to change a thing.
But as I said, I do enjoy the games and I've pulled for the Dawgs and LSU since 1981, when I first arrived in Dawg country. I think I mentioned it before, but Deanna Dooley was married to an attorney who worked in my office, and the social functions where her spouse (as you might imagine - he was a rabid Dawgs fan) and a very rabid Alabama fan involved heated discussions which once nearly came to blows. Very lively entertainment to say the least!
Here's an interesting analysis on what is supposedly REALLY behind all of the inter-conference moves:
No surprise - the author attributes it to "the commissioners, about their egos and their legacies, about the aphrodisiac-laced cocktail of power and greed."
....and on GSU, here's an extract from an article in the Courier which discusses GSU's desire to move up to FBS competition. They're planning on charging a new student fee to facilitate the move. From the Courier article:
This $75 fee will support GSU football’s move to a new level of competition as well as a move to a new athletic conference. Georgia Southern has expressed interest in competing with other major universities in the FBS series. The state does not fund athletic operations. The fee to support the potential move to FBS will not go into effect until Georgia Southern is offered and accepts an invitation to join an FBS conference. The fee would begin the first full semester after joining the FBS."
Well those Schools (FCS) need the money, and exposure. Such as Savannah State. They are Division I-AA (MEAC CONFERENCE) Not too much of a Perrinial Power outside their Conference or in their Conference. Not a Power in Football at all. Heck, Camden County could beat Savannah State. They could use the revenue for the School, and to try to augment their Athletic Program. The television exposure would get their name out, even though their are a horrible football team. However; you have some names that entered the NFL from Savannah State. Example: Cecil Newton Sr. All American Strong Safety who played for the Dallas Cowboys, and NFL Hall Of Famer Shannon Sharpe Tight End.
Yes the SEC has a great thing in scheduling their games. They schedule their Conference in the middle of their season rather than at the end of the season. But don't a lot of NCAA Football teams do that as well? Normally the last game is their in State rivals. Georgia- Georgia Tech, Florida- Florida State, South Carolina- Clemson, North Carolina- North Carolina State, Virginia- Virginia Tech, etc.
I am a HUGE SEC FAN (GEORGIA) as you can rightfully see LOL... I take the good along with the bad win winning and losing. At the end of the day, I am still a Georgia Bulldog Football Fan.
Also, yes you know by now how deep the rilvary goes in the South when it comes to football. Down to the High School Level. Why do you think I blog so much about the Bradwell Institute Tigers Football Program? LOL Back in the day from Hokie Jackson, to Clifford Johnson, then from Ron Beachum, to Ross New. Bradwell Institute was a perinnial football power. There was not a team that Bradwell Institute did not beat in our region at the time. Teams that are winning State Titles in football we, use to beat. Don't believe me, check the record books. As far as the Savannah Public Schools went, all of them were a team that any of them we could schedule out Homecoming for a sure win. The ONLY Team gave us competition was Benedictine. Jim Walsh Sr was the head Coach at one time there, but we would beat them as well.
Here are some schools that have State Titles in Football whom Bradwell have beaten before Walsh Jr. came along:
Carver Of Columbus
Other Schools that I can think of from the top of my head that have a good program today that we have beaten.
There are a lot more I am sure but this is some of the teams that I could think of at the very moment. We were vey well respected through out the state. But that is long gone seems like and until Walsh Jr. is gone, you can guarantee that the same will remain there along with everything being complacent.
Okay let me get back on track. I got a little distracted.. LOL
Here is my projections again.
If Notre Dame wins this weekend, they will be in the National Chamoionship Game to be against an SEC Team. Either Alabama, or Georgia if the two of them win tis weekend, and I have no reason to think that the two wont win this weekend. The decision will be made for the the No#2 Ranked team to be determined the following week in Atlanta when the Alabama Crimson Tide square off against the Georgia Bulldogs for the South Eastern Championship Title. The winner out those two will play against Notre Dame. Sports analyst stated that all SEC Teams in the top 10 of the BCS rankings will be at least a 10 point favorite over Notre Dame if they played against them. Now that says a lot about the power of the SEC in football.
There are still a lot of scenarios that are left to still enter the BCS NCG.
IfNotre Dame Loses to Southern Cal, the guess what, and Georgia and Alabama win this weekend, and again they should, then you have have this scenario, a repeat of last year when SEC #1. plays against SEC #2 team.
Alabama or Georgia -SEC Champion
Florida who will move up to No. 2 in the BCS Rankings. If Florida beats Florida State, and I believe they will this weekend.
No matter what, I believe an SEC School will be playing in the BCS NCG against some team and the SEC will win the BCS National Title for the 7th years in a row.
This $75 fee will support GSU football’s move to a new level of competition as well as a move to a new athletic conference. Georgia Southern has expressed interest in competing with other major universities in the FBS series. The state does not fund athletic operations. The fee to support the potential move to FBS will not go into effect until Georgia Southern is offered and accepts an invitation to join an FBS conference. The fee would begin the first full semester after joining the FBS."
If they do, what Conference will they play in? They are no way ready to play in the SEC Conference. Maybe the ACC or a smaller Conference such as Conference USA.
"They schedule their Conference in the middle of their season rather than at the end of the season. But don't a lot of NCAA Football teams do that as well?"
The Big 12, PAC 12, Big 10 don't do that. It's mainly the SEC, ACC and Big East (what's left of it). Those (first) three also run their basketball schedules the same way. All the "exhibition" non-conference stuff is front-loaded, and then the conference schedule kicks in and they don't play out of conference until after their final tournaments.
"Don't believe me, check the record books."
NO - I BELIEVE you. When I first got here in 1981, I recall that Bradwell was a power. My daughter went there for her first year of HS before I got shipped off to Central Texas and we got exposed to the HS football madness that was ongoing there. My kids attended/graduated from Ellison HS in Killeen in 89/90. Their situation reminded me of here in Hinesville, At one time, they had one local HS - Killeen HS - which got all the young football talent. Then there got to be too many kids and they opened Ellison HS. Killeen HS used to be a state power, but once Ellison opened it diluted the talent pool. As it was, Ellison had a couple of undefeated seasons while my son played there, but once they got into the state tournament they exited pretty fast. Tommy Harris, who played for my recently-clobbered Chicago Bears, attended Ellison HS in the late 90s. I knew that Shannon Sharpe was a SAV State graduate. From the way he played in the NFL, he must have been a superstar when he played for SAV ST.
"If Notre Dame wins this weekend, they will be in the National Chamoionship Game to be against an SEC Team."
I think you're right. If that happens, of course I'm pulling for the Dawgs to be the SEC rep. But they have to take care of business on the field and beat AL. Then FL needs to lose to FL State, or at least win in a squeaker in a sloppy game with a bunch of turnovers on both sides, so that no matter how the Dawgs win it would mark them clearly as #2. If a FL team gets in,then it would be - as I mentioned above - essentially a home game with where it will be played (FL). According to these guys, the gamblers want ND against AL:
"There are still a lot of scenarios that are left to still enter the BCS NCG."
Yes - and the one you failed to mention is the one I outlined above:
*ND wins against USC
*AL or GA must both win their final regular season games, but one will DEFINITELY have two losses after their SEC championship game.
*FL State beats FL
*KState beats TX
This would set up the final rankings as #1-ND, with probably AL/GA at #2 and KState #3 - but depending on how the AL/GA game went, KSU could squeak in if they rout TX.
As to the point spread in any national championship game involving ND and an SEC team: KState and Oregon were HUGE point spread favorites last week and look at how that turned out. As I recall, AL was a BIG favorite against TX A&M at home when Johnny Football showed 'em what for. So for me - the point spreads are for the gamblers. I don't put too much stock in them; they're interesting to talk about before the games and to see how it turns out. But all season long I've been picking 10 college games per week and 14 NFL games per week, and my son and I always "check the spread" before making the picks. It seems to me that after almost the entire season, there were as many teams that covered the spread as failed to. So when you can flip a coin that way, I don't put too much stock in it.
As to GSU, it seems to me that the ACC would be a logical fit, right? Especially with the defections they now currently are experiencing.
Here are one set of early-week "point spreads" for the games I mentioned. From this page, it looks like ND was the only highly ranked team that covered the spread, so as I say when more don't cover than do, I'll wait for the outcome on the field.
Here's what they thought about the AL-TX A&M game:
(I intentionally omitted AL and the Dawgs from last week's "spread check," as they were expected to totally clobber their competition - which they did. So for those two games, Bonzo the chimp could have predicted big spread wins over the two weak-sister teams that AL and GA played.)
"I knew that Shannon Sharpe was a SAV State graduate. From the way he played in the NFL, he must have been a superstar when he played for SAV ST."
Cecil Newton Sr. is the Father of Cam Newton, Quarterback for the Carolina Panthers.
"As to GSU, it seems to me that the ACC would be a logical fit, right? Especially with the defections they now currently are experiencing."
I don't think that GSU could actually compete in the ACC either. The talent Pool the depth the size the stregnth the speed. Jaybe Conference USA the MAC or maybe even go Independent.
Yes - I knew that. From what I've read, Cecil attended training camps with Dallas and Buffalo in 1983 and 1984, but didn't actually log any time in an NFL regular season game. What I remember Cecil more for was the Mississippi State alleged "pay for play" scandal that embroiled the Newton father-and-son duo a couple of years ago:
and for the "dark side" of the scandal, see:
I guess everything turned out okay - or at least it has gone away. But after a great rookie season, Cam seems to have hit on hard times. But with the ways of the NFL, Ron Rivera and his coaching staff will probably be first to hit the bricks. Perhaps with a different scheme Cam will do better. He does seem to have gotten "happy feet" in the Panther games I've seen this year.
But after all of the defections, you might have a talent level in the ACC which resembles Conf USA or MAC, wouldn't you? With most of the best teams checking out (and now there's speculation that FL State will want out, too), the ACC might be just the home for some of the up-and-coming programs like GSU who want to get into "FBS" competition.
It really is a mess. They are destroying all of those natural and historical rivalries. I wonder if they will make a whole lot more money after all is said and done.
Yes - this one is getting difficult to negotiate. But after this week - we'll have a very clear picture of how things will likely turn out - so there may not be much more need for discussion, no?
This was done earlier in the season.
Here I go with my two cents worth. With all of the possible scenarios, the following is what I think will happen:
1. Notre Dame loses to USC even with a back-up QB playing for the Trojans.
2. FSU beats UF.
3. UGA and Alabama take care of business this weekend.
4. Oregon wins out.
5. Alabama beats UGA (I hope not but…)
6. And lastly, Oregon will end up 2nd in the BCS and will finally give the rest of the country what they have wanted for years; a champion other than an SEC school who earned it by beating an SEC school!
These are my bold predictions that on many levels I HOPE do not prove to be correct.
Tiger5: I will be surprised (but not too surprised) if ND loses, but I can see the rest of your scheme playing out. But Oregon has two tough ones ahead of them - just as tough as Stanford, I would think. Also, I wonder how much of the "heart" was taken out of AL by the loss to A&M. The Dawgs should be flying high for that game, and I'm pulling for them to give AL their second loss.
I know I should trust Notre Dame by this point but for whatever reason I do not. As for Oregon, I believe they are just that good (offensively.) I believe they will rebound against Oregon St. and in the PAC 12 CG. I can't explain how they lose to Stanford at home but most of the contenders have a head-scratcher on their resume. I have always emphatically believed in the SEC style of play and that SEC defenses would shut Oregon and their style down. Most recently, LSU and Auburn have done so. But this year, Alabama seems to lack an elite pass rush and UGA can be had on the ground with option and zone read type stuff. Oregon is usually very efficient through the air and on the ground.
As far as UGA/Alabama is concerned, I truly believe UGA can beat Alabama but Mr. Murray has struggled mightily on the big stage. I have no reason to believe in him in an SEC championship game. I hope I am wrong and he will grab the prize in front of him this time. I sound like I am overlooking Tech but I am not. UGA will be focused with more reason than ever since the early 80’s to stomp Tech into the Sanford Stadium dirt!
I don't think that will Happen.
I do believe that Notre Dame will get upset by Southern Cal. If that was to happen, Alabama will move to the number one spot in the Rankings provided they take care of business with Auburn this weekend.
Georgia will move to the number two spot in the rankings if they beat Georgia Tech, and they are playing between the hedges. Georgia will take care of business there as well.
If Florida beat FSU, then they will move to the number 3 position.
BCS National Championship Picture:
If Notre Dame beats Southern Cal, then they will clearly be the number one team in the BCS Rankings and will be playing for the BCS National Championship.
The number 2 ranked team will either be Georgia or Alabama depending on who wins the SEC Championship game next week Saturday. If Alabama beat Georgia as everyone (some Sports Analyst) are saying, then they will be the number two ranked team and will face Notre Dame for the BCS National Championship. If Georgia beats Alabama, ( I believe that is going to happen) then Georgia will be the number two team that will face Notre Dame for the BCS National Championship.
I have this hunch:
Notre Dame falls to Southern California
Alabama moves to No 1
Georgia moves to No 2
Florida is going to beat Florida State
Florida moves to No 3
Alabama or Georgia goes to the BCS as No 1
Florida moves to No 2
No 2 Florida meets No 1 Alabama or
Georgia and play against either of the two for the BCS National Championship.
Again the SEC will be in the BCS National Championship for the 7th year in a row.
I know people would like to see a different team there but sorry. They want to see another team, then all they have to do is win out, and go undefeated.
If Notre Dame beats Southern California, I don't have them beating Alabama or Georgia at all. There will be another BCS National Championship going to the SEC for the 7th year in a row, and there we go again with SEC Dominance.
THE SEC CONFERENCE AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!
As I stated earlier in this blog, I stated that Oregon will lose to Standford and / or Oregon State. I think the wind was taken out of the by Standford, and they will lose to Oregon State as well on the road there. I don't know if that would knock them out of the PAC 12 Championship but I think they will lose to Oregon State too.
I also believe that Georgia is going to beat Alabama. They quietly putting their game plan of attack together. I am always right, but I am hardly ever wrong. I really have a hunch that Georgia is going to beat Alabama this time. Alabama is not invincible as everyone can now see. I honestly believe that Georgia's offense is better than Alabama's Offense. Georgia's Defense are now playing some great Football. I see the upset over Alabama by at least three. Georgia goes to the National Championship as the number one or number two Team is the BCS Rankings.
"I do believe that Notre Dame will get upset by Southern Cal."
That sounds like the same "wishful thinking" I had when I was hopin' for KState to advance. I'm wishing for a ND win. We'll see what happens today. The picture will be much clearer. Then I'll crank up another blog, as you suggested. This one is getting too long for sure. Have a great day - Sporty and everyone - and enjoy the games!
What a weekend. Well first of all let me say congrats to the Notre Dame Team and Fans. I did not believe that a Notre Dame Football could beat a USC Team. Either USC is not a good USC this year or Notre Dame is really that good. Nevertheless; the better team won Saturday in Pasdena, Calfornia. By being undefeated in the regular season, they deserve to be number one in the BCS Polls.
Around the SEC, what a weekend of Total Domination. Four SEC Teams Dominated that ACC.
Florida State 26
Florida 37 Final
Georgia Tech 10
Georgia 42 Final
South Carolina 27 Final
Wake Forest 21
Vanderbilt 55 Final
Despite four wins over teams in the top 13 this week the Gators are number four in the BCS Rankings, but will not make to the BCS National Championship Game. The Gators are locked for a BCS Bowl Bert and will likely be in the Allstate Sugar Bowl.
#2 Alabama hammered Auburn with a 49-0 win sending them to the SEC Championship to Face #3 Georgia in Atlanta at the Georgia Dome December 1st 2012.
With all of the questions being addressed this past weekend as to who will play for National Title, the only remains is who will Face Notre Dame for the BCS National Championship Game January 7, 2013 in Miami, Florida?
It seems to me that no one is giving Georgia a fighting chance. While the Georgia Bulldogs are remaining quiet, Sports Analyst, Commentators, along with Critics are not even speaking about Georgia other than they have wion the SEC East and will face Alabama.
Alabama is getting all of the recognition even with a home loss to Texas A&M. This will be an exciting game between the two as I am quite sure that the Bulldogs will be ready for the Crimson Tide when they meet this coming Saturday.
I have a hunch that the Bulldogs will win this game by at least 3 points .
No - I mentioned earlier that my son attended the Stanford-Southern Cal game a few weeks ago. His observation was that neither of these teams could "stop anybody," as indicated by the 62-51 result in favor of Oregon.
Also - this season Notre Dame beat Stanford 20-13, and Stanford beat Oregon 17-14. So these results clearly showed that ND was in the ballpark - i.e., probably just as good (especially on defense) as the PAC 12s best teams. I was not surprised by NDs win over Southern Cal - especially with the loss of Barkley. When you stick a freshman quarterback into a huge rivaly game in the national spotlight, you never know what you're going to get. IMHO - we got the typical "freshman performance" - inconsistency was USCs downfall.
The SEC certainly showed their dominance over the ACC this past weekend, finishing of their opponents and going undefeated (4-0). I WAS surprised that Florida State didn't have a better showing against Florida - especially since the game was being played in Tallahassee. But I guess it's no surprise that a team loses when they turn the ball over FIVE TIMES.
I'm pulling for the Dawgs to beat Alabama at the GA "home game" this weekend. The national prognosticators I've been listening to for the past few days claim GA would be a tougher opponent for ND than AL, due to Georgia's superior skill players on offense and overall tougher defense.
In a couple of years, we hopefully will have a better system. As of now, the Sagarin computers do have five SEC teams in the top ten. (That's counting TX A&M - which I personally won't count as an indication of SEC "dominance" until their current personnel is flushed out), but in the top five you have ND at #1; Oregon at #3; and Kansas State at #5. See:
So if you define "the SEC and everybody else" as 5 out of the top 10, I agree with you. If you note that according to the computers, the #1, #3, and #5 teams are NOT SEC teams, I'm not so sure. When it comes to the rankings, I favor the computers, because with the human polls you have the inevitable popularity contest and regional biases that come into play with the Coaches' and AP polls.
As I said before, I think the Notre Dame win over Southern Cal was good for college football. They will probably be double-digit (at least) underdogs in South Florida, but they've been underdogs (especially in the minds of ND haters and SEC lovers) most of the season. They'll need to score some points on their SEC opponent, that's for sure. If it's ND-AL: TX A&Ms offense showed the roadmap on how to score points on Alabama, but I don't think anybody expected the A&M defense to keep them in the game. In theory, ND won't have as difficult a problem on the defensive side of the ball. If it's ND-GA, I would expect the Dawgs to be tanned, rested, and ready to win. I believe GAs loss to SC was a fluke, and my hunch is that they will be celebrating a 2012 national championship before the first game between the hedges next year.
But back to South Florida: For me, the key is how Gholson plays. If he's overwhelmed by the moment, it could be a blowout in favor of the SEC. If not, ND might be hanging around in the fourth quarter. If that happens, ND will have gained a lot of confidence and anything can happen.
Whoever wins this weekend, both teams will have more than a month to prepare for the other guys. At least it won't be SEC-SEC again. Except for SEC fans, that match-up would have been the absolute last choice, no matter what the rankings are.
As far as Rankings goes, in the Coaches Poll you have six SEC Teams in the top ten.
8. Texas A&M
10. South Carolina
In the BCS Rankings you have
9. Texas A&M
Now if you look at what Conference the remainder of the Teams come out of you will have your answer as to why I say SEC Dominance.
01. Notre Dame Independent
05. Oregon PAC 12
06. Kansas State Big 12
08. Stanford PAC 12
10. Florida State
One Independent, Two PAC 12 teams, One Big 12 Team , and One ACC Team. In The BCS there are five SEC Teams.
The Coaches Poll
01. Notre Dame Independent
05. Oregon PAC 12
07. Kansas State BIG 12
09. Stanford PAC 12
Again, One Independent Team, 2 PAC 12 Teams, and One Big 12 Team.
6 SEC Teams in the Top 10 seems pretty dominant to me.
In retrospect sebekm, I do believe that Georgia is going to beat Alabama. Not speaking with my heart, (that will deceive you) but because the way that Georgia Defense has been playing. The loss to South Carolina may have been a fluke, but in all fairness, they loss, and they loss big time. That game along with that Kentucky game was the breaking point that got the Dawgs Defense to start playing well. Since that time, they have been playing lights out football. The separation in this SEC Championship game will be Georgia's High Powered Offense over Alabama's Offense. For Georgia to win this game, they are going to have to score quickly on the Crimson Tide, and play up tempo on the Offense. That is what Texas A&M did to them and won.
Alabama is good, but I really don't that this Alabama Team are better than this Georgia Bulldog as a whole. I do believe this is Georgia's year to win the BCS National Championship. I wont count out Notre Dame, but I am not convinced that this Notre Dame team could keep up with either Georgia, Alabama, or any top ten SEC Team. Notre Dame won. But there wins did not look dominating as these SEC Teams in the Top Ten has handled teams outside their Conference. The did Beat a mediocre complacent USC Team, and they did beat Stanford. I just don't seem Notre Dame beating Georgia or Alabama. I would have them at a 10 point underdog to either of the two.
I understand that the fans would like to see another team other than the same SEC being in the BCS National Championship every year. Well they have Notre Dame in there. But this could very well be a lopsided victory for the SEC Team that plays against them.
I do favor the new playoff plus one over the current system that we have now. Maybe next year (hopefully) Ohio State will be ranked but they will still be on Probation. I can see USC being ranked as well, Florida State too. But who knows what next year may bring? It will be pretty interesting to see what we will have next year.....
It would be better to have a 16 team playoff system, and play it down to the finals. You could use your current BCS Bowls. That way you can have a undisputed National Champion....
"Well they have Notre Dame in there. But this could very well be a lopsided victory for the SEC Team that plays against them."
I agree totally. It could be a blowout. I hope not.
As for Ohio State, I will be forever tainted against the Big 10 based on their poor showing in my lifetime in bowl games. I realize they play in "cold weather" country, so their style of football doesn't translate well to bowl games in southern cities (i.e., bulk vs. speed). But I was born and raised in Big 10 country, and I've been disappointed too many times. I now root for SEC, Big 12 and PAC 12 teams. I do have a fondness for UTEP based on a military assignment in El Paso, but they always seem to get their butts kicked by everybody.
"It would be better to have a 16 team playoff system, and play it down to the finals. You could use your current BCS Bowls. That way you can have a undisputed National Champion...."
This is what I was hoping for when they first started talking about having a "playoff system." I guess four teams is better than what we have now, but I think at least eight and ideally 16 would be great. You COULD use the current bowls, and rotate THE game among them each year so that different cities get the "big prize" game. Right now, you have - what - 4 or 5 weeks between the end of conference regular seasons and the start of the BCS bowls. It would work perfect if they had a bye week for everybody; then started the games - 8 on the first weekend; then 4 the week after. Then the "semifinal" two games the next weekend, followed by a bye (or not). Then the big game. I guess one argument against is with all the playoff games, you'd take some of the glow off the other bowl games, but - let's be honest - there probably are too many bowl games to begin with. I mean - I remember several bowls each year that hosted 6-6 teams with nearly empty stadiums. They need to get rid of some of those.
I think the best arrangment would be a 16 team playoff and keep only the most historical, best attended "other" bowl games. A total revamp of the current system. Of course, they'll never do it.
I would not think they would do this. It sounds too much like right and the greedy companies will feel that another company will get more money tan they will. Too much red tape and politics. Just use the damned 16 team playoff system and play it down to the finals.
You have the NFL, The NBA, The MLB, MLS, and etc. You Have the College Basketball Tournament to determine the National Champions, College Baseball World Series, and etc. But yet you can't put a simple 16 game playioff system for Division 1 Teams? Stupidity or Crooks at it's best.
More News Sebekm,
Bobby Petrino is being sought to become the head Coach at Auburn.
Les Miles offered a 5 year 27 million dollar deal to become the Arkansas Head Football Coach.
Les Miles then get a 7 year extension from LSU t5o remain there. LOL...
Kentucky gets Former Florida State Defensive Coordinator Mark Stoops as New Haed Football Coach.
John Gruden is being sought for the Tennessee Head Coaching vacancy.
…and some say Auburn is looking at Jimbo Fisher at FSU. If that were to happen (I don’t think it will) then FSU would immediately place a call to Mark Richt. If Richt left UGA (I don’t think he would)then UGA would immediately place the call to Kirby Smart…I don’t think this will all happen but you never know and it sure makes for interesting conversation and speculation.
Maybe Tiger 5
There is a lot of money being made as a Head Football Coach in the SEC and among other Colleges and Universities.
Sporty and Tiger:
Yes - it's very interesting to watch the "coaching carousel" go 'round. I've always enjoyed following Les Miles' antics, and I would be surprised if he left LSU anytime soon. I hadn't seen Sporty's news rport that he got an extension, but it doesn't surprise me. I REALLY like Jon Gruden as a broadcast announcer, and would be disappointed if he headed back to the sidelines.
I was just about to post a link I found at bleacherreport.com a few minutes ago which reported that Gruden had "turned down" the Tennessee offer, but it kept locking up my screen so I'll just mention it here. The headline read that Gruden turned the job down, and asked the Vol Nation: "Where do we go from here?" IMHO - they ought to go back to the guy they fired before all of their current problems: Phil Fullmer. Also IMHO - they never should have fired that guy in the first place. From watching him coach and listening to him in interviews, it was obvious that the guy had TN orange blood in his veins, and he had an excellent record as head coach (152-52) during his 17 years at Tennessee. As I recall, he was VERY upset over being let go, and then TN hired the guy who is currently running the Southern Cal program into the ground: Lane Kiffin.
I also always enjoyed the days when Vince Dooley was at GA and Spurrier was at FL. Urban Meyer's record as head coach at FL isn't too shabby either.
Yes - the big bucks are in charge now. I see where "The Honey Badger" has decided to take his pass-intercepting/kickoff-and-punt-returning/weed-smoking show on the road to the National Football League, rather than return to LSU (or any other school) and continue his college education. I wonder who will "take a chance" on him the NFL draft - and whether he will be a first round pick.
From what I have heard, and I do not have figures to support it, but Gruden makes alot more money than he would coaching. And yes, UT got what they asked for by hiring Kiffin. Kiffin has never been successful. Never. He has only been a thorn in the side of every organization for which he has worked. He did however beg Al Davis not to draft JeMarcus Russell. Have to give him credit for that!
Well I think I will go watch Camden County and Norcross tonight (LOTS of SEC recruits, including future Dawgs, playing) and sit there and dream of a 3rd round game for good ole BI! Come on down, SF, and be reminded how good HS football really is.
Sebekm, and Tiger5,
I am in the New York City For about a week and a half, but I will be reading, listening, and monitoring the Football Games down there. It is BIG TALK up here in regards to the Georgia - Alabama game tomorrow. I had no idea that the people up here would care about this game being that this is Basketball Territory. But the money bets are going around being time. I listened in as much as I could and could not take it anymore. I decided to put my two cents in. LOL... Now that they know that I am from Georgia, they are in on me, and wanting to know my thoughts. I gave them all a ear full.
I gave them a lecture as to why the SEC is so big and the South in Football. Then we began a debate. They think that the SEC is overrated because of the games they played. I in returned asked them who was their favorite team that they pull for. They told me Boston College, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Michigan, Ohio State, and of course Rutgers. LOL.... I began to laugh and laugh so much that tears were streaming down my face.
You both know that neither of those teams could compete against the SEC, and win at this current date, and time.
By the time time I finished explaining with them and breaking down the stats, they were quite. Then they began to turn on each other. LOL.... Yes I started something up here, and now tomorrow we ALL (about 25 to 30 fans) will be watching the SEC Championship game between Alabama and Georgia. And yes, I have my Black Golf Shirt With Georgia Helmet and Logo embroidered on it. We will be drinking lots of beers, and eating lots of Buffalo Wings watching this game.
You have some pulling for Alabama, but a lot of us will be pulling for the Dawgs. I really believe that this Georgia Bulldog Team is going to beat Alabama this time at the Dome. In my opinion, I believe that Georgia's Offense is better than Alabama's Offense. Alabama's Defense is great, but so is Georgia Defense. They have been playing lights out football ever since that Florida win.
I believe that if Aaron Murray, plays consistent like he have been these past few weeks, they will win. To shake up Alabama's defense, Murray will need to score quickly, (like on their first possession) the defense come on to the field and go 3 and out, or cause Alabama to turn over the ball and Georgia recover. Murray again with his passing attack keep Alabama's Defense off balance. Right now in my opinion, Alabama's Secondary is very suspect. Murray should continue the play action pass using his Tight Ends, and going deep with his wide receivers.
Then open up the running game and pound Alabama's defense. Georgia will need to utilize the no huddle offense and play up tempo ball. If they do that successfully, Georgia will win this game. I don't believe that it will be a blow out on neither side for the win.
What I can guarantee you is this will be a very good hard hitting game. This is the unofficial BCS National Championship Game. LOL....
As for the new Head Football Coaches vacancies goes, Derek Dooley was in way over his head. He was not ready for a SEC Team. LSU did extend Les Miles Contract for 7 more years for an undisclosed amount. I bet you that it was more than 5 years 27 million dollars to keep him at LSU. If not, I think Les Miles would have left.
John Gruden: I don't if he makes more money as a Sports Analyst than the way these SEC Colleges are paying. These Head Coaches in the SEC are making more money than NFL Head Coaches are making.
So, the Honey Badger is wanting to go Pro. Well after all of the trouble that he has been in, I wonder who will be willing to take a chance on him? We will have to wait, and see.
The Camden County / Norcross game will be a good one. But I don't believe that Norcross will beat Camden County. if things go like I see it, I could Camden County playing against their Region nemesis, Colquitt County if they don't lose tonight. I wish I could be there. I would if I was down there. I am quite sure that would bring back memories as to how football is really played in Georgia High Schools.
Sporty: I'm sure those were lively discussions in the Big Apple, and that you gave 'em hell on the merits of the SEC. As I mentioned, I was born and raised in Big 10 country, but even when I lived there I understood that when it came to football, you ought to look elsewhere around the country for the BEST teams. One of my favorites way back when was Southern Cal. I - along with millions of others - rooted for O.J. Simpson and were happy when he won the Heismann Trophy. Little did we know how it would turn out....
I, too, am pulling - HARD -for the Dawgs. They need that trophy for their case. Alabama has too many (although I might not be saying that if Bear Bryant was still around). I'd still be pulling for the Dawgs, though.
Yes - I was disappointed in how it worked out for Derek Dooley. You'd think with that pedigree he ought to be a genius about all things college football.
I guess I ought to pay attention to local (HS) sports more, but with everything else going on, I have a hard time keeping up. Don't ever get old.
I agree with you on Kiffin. I notice his dad has announced his resignation to go somewhere else. I guess he's taking the fall for the team's poor defensive showing, perhaps hoping to minimize the negative impact on his son. I think they probably should just clean house entirely at Southern Cal and start over. That guy who went to Washington - Sarkisian - might be a good choice. With the success that Stanford and Oregon is having - and with other PAC 12 teams up and coming - Southern Cal needs to do something or they risk falling behind in the recruiting wars.
Yes - I also agree that Gruden is probably better off with the big bucks in the broadcast booth. But some of those guys have the coaching bug and just have to be on the sidelines. Chucky does seem to have a pretty good gig going on ESPN, with his QB spotlight shows and MNF. If I were him, I'd stay put. You'd think he has a lot less pressure on him with what he's doing now. He could stay in broadcasting for the rest of his working career - and not always be worried about when the axe will fall if he's filling a coaching job.
All the best to you both. Take care, stay safe (especially in NYC - watch out for muggers), and enjoy your weekend and the games.