The Courier article is here:
I share your sentiments, gacpl. For those who can't "see" it, here's the comment I posted a short while ago on the article page:
"I believe there's a similar problem at the intersection of General Stewart and Hwy 84, as well as at the new intersection of Hwy 196 and 84. Especially at General Stewart - there used to be a "no right on red" sign but when they redid the traffic signals and the striping they took down the sign. I was unaware of the law, and when the sign came down I ass*u*med that right turn on red (arrow) was okay. Good idea to publicize the law here, but signs would be better. After all, there's only a few needed (that I'm aware of) and - unless the objective is to write tickets to raise revenues - it would be a community service to just put up the signs."
In an older driver manual it stated that a right on red only applies to a circular traffic light. When I asked a deputy about that he said it means a round red light, not an arrow.
It would make more since to just have on or the other, not both.
Or they could have the law consistent for both. I find myself at the intersetion of Gen. Stewart and 84 almost daily. I thought the (apparent) widening of the right lane from Stewart onto 84 and making the right lane a left or right turn was a good idea. Since then, I've turned right on the red arrow A LOT, and haven't seen or heard of any accidents due to the new arrangement. I suppose you can always have accidents if people do stupid stuff, but that can happen at any intersection no matter how it's marked.
I googled "right turn on red arrow" and apparently the prohibition is NOT universal as far as all 50 states go. But if it's a violation in GA, I'd rather have them advertise it in the paper/on TV, etc., before issuing citations.
i agree golf, but when you have been driving the road for years you don't look for sign that says right turn on red that was right there where the bus sign is. it is just common sense to put a sign up by the light to let people know of the change. unless of corse they are trying to make up for there lack of watching how they spend our local tax dollars
I wonder who took the sign down? the city or the state since this is a state law that a sign must be posted saying right turns allowed on red after a full stop.
That is a state hwy so the state is respsonsible for the road signs and traffice lights. The issue of red arrow and right turns was a problem with the new turn for the Fleming Shortcut but the light changed after several complaints and now it is two round red light instead of two red arrows.
I hadn't picked up on the Fleming shortcut change. There's still an issue at the Stewart/84 intersection.