I would say for the residents of Hinesville there is no hope, why because the citizens re-elected them.

I am glad I don't live in Hinesville.

I agree with golfnut31316 and if Obama is re-elected were all going down a path of destruction. Is Mayor Thomas kin to Obama, is this the gov'ment promise land?

"Reality is, running a City is running a business. A business for profit."

Mayor Thomas is first a retired military and second a retired government employee.

Then he was elected Mayor of Hinesville.

About the same time it was briefly reported that his home was being foreclosed on for non payment.

A former military officer drawing a tidy retirement check as well as his retirement check from the corps of engineers couldn't keep his home mortgage payments made on time.

He must have chosen to live beyond his means.

Apparently he had little or no management skill that would apply to the world of business.

Reality is he was not a good choice for the role of mayor.

I couldn't agree with timeontarget more! Sadly the 5 Counsel man appear to follow his ideology or just don't have the stamina to stand up to him.

I is unfortunate that most people are exhibiting the "Ostrich Syndrome" due to mislead loyalty , indifference or sheer ignorance, hoping it will all go away rather than being pro-active. WRONG! It will only get worse and eventually we will find ourselves, like sheep, being led to the slaughter house.

There's always hope that said however, with the current city council they have done nothing but show the electorate poor financial skills in good times, the hard times haven't hit yet...no matter how hard they deny it things are about to get really rough around here;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49404306/...

Hinesville/Liberty County has benefitted over the past 30yrs from Ft Stewart to a degree that borders on the criminal without taking a shred of responsibility for its actions. That will not be allowed to continue...

Sheran sweetness...you know I love you, but this isn't about the Presidential election. All politics being local, this is about Hinesville and I am afraid WatchfulEye is correct. There is NO HOPE HERE TO EFFECT CHANGE. I have blogged about this as have others. I have written letters to the Editor (I do not do Sound offs). As I stated on another blog: "I have lived here all my life cept goin off for some learnin' a while back, and this is the worst I have ever seen regarding accountability from our elected officials." I, a liberal Democrat, voted for a Tea Party Republican candidate, Billy Kithchens, in the last election!!! The system is too entrenched. Hinesville has lost its soul to the almighty realtor and special interest dollar bills.

Yet, I am going to keep on running my mouth and typing out what I perceive as total injustices even if they fall on deaf ears. The ONLY way to get their attention is for enough people to go to the polls and vote them out.

If not done, as I have said, it is only going to get worse.

Now I know what Cassandra felt like standing on the ealls of Troy.

Cassie should have never broken that promise to Apollo...

Yup it really doesn't matter which version of the tale you prefer they all end the same way, that's Greek Tragedies for you, do you think they'll have the outdoor theatre ready at Bryan Commons in time for a local production of some works by Aeschylus (sorry couldn't resist)

That should be "walls of Troy". Dang stoopid fingers!

Tis true but a fine example of what happens to those who don't keep their promises

But Cassie's fate was akin to punishing petty theft with a death sentence, wasn't it? After all - to be raped and then concubined just for breaking a promise to be a consort.

It sounds like it was the Greeks who really had a "War on Women."

Oh you forgot she was also murdered by King Agamemnon's wife.

@ Jimmy Mack.
Yet, I am going to keep on running my mouth and typing out what I perceive as total injustices even if they fall on deaf ears. The ONLY way to get their attention is for enough people to go to the polls and vote them out.

If not done, as I have said, it is only going to get worse.
I agree, same with Obama,Darlin.

Correct Sheran, BHO needs to Go!

Jimmy Mack I too have lived my entire life here and I agree with much of what you write.

I don't understand your seemingly blind support for a young President who has a terrible record.

Like Hinesville the Nation is in the worst shape that it has been in our lifetime.

I know of nobody currently in office at any level who is worthy of reelection.

Your beloved Democratic party and their partners the Republican party have joined together in the greatest partisan effort of all to ruin the political process.

See blog posted last week about the two party stranglehold.

I believe if we declared no party affiliation for any member of congress then and only then we would see some accomplishment in Washington.

I agree the whole darned lot have to go, what bothers me to no end is the number of people that can't wrap their minds around the facts that it's about to get a whole lot worse...our elected officials have been buying & spending time on our dime to include the monies meant for a rainy day plus maxed out the credit cards, haven't paid a bill one with any real funds and it's all coming due NOW and we're beyond broke so we're going sell a few pounds of flesh & lord knows how many souls to keep the wolf from the door.

Back to Hinesville, our elected officials can't hide in that building forever, they will have to face the wrath of the electorate. Are they smart enough to understand that the budget has to be trimmed by at least 20%? Very hard times are about to befall Hinesville/Liberty/Ft.Stewart and raising property taxes on empty buildings will not fill the coffers...

Well gee whiz TOT...you gotta pick ONE!
I don't see ANY viable third party out there. That concept is a dead end pipe dream harbored by bitter malcontents. Not that I am calling you one, I do not even know who you are since you have CHOSEN to NOT share your profile. If'n you are going to take shots at people or ideas at least have the personal integrity to SIGN YOUR NAME rather than hiding in anonymity.

This blog started off about Hinesville and now it seems to have morphed into a Presidential referendum. Truth be known, George W. Bush stomped on the national debt gas peddle leading us to finanacial chaos with his misguided judddegggmint regarding Iraq. He put us on this express elevator to financial hell and Romney-Ryan is NOT the answer to our woes.

BHO by a nose at the wire!

Same thing to you, Sheran dearest!

Back on the subject of higher taxes.

Unless you are a business owner you probably did not notice how the Hinesville City Franchise Fees, Hinesville City Excse Fees and how other Taxes, Fees and Surcharges went up this past July.

"Oh you forgot she was also murdered by King Agamemnon's wife."

I did. She certainly was denied life, liberty, and the pursuit of (her own) happiness.

I wonder if Cassandra was a Democrat or a Republican?

"sebekm" I'm pretty sure Ross Perot had Cassandra on the Reform Party ticket...(which would explain her demise)

He probably would have been better off with Cassandra. Instead, he had Admiral James "Who Am I - Why Am I Here?" Stockdale - the reputedly worst choice for a VP running mate in history (until Palin in 2008, that is).

As a general consensus we are and have been agreeing that that there needs to be a change in leadership but that nothing can be done about it right this moment. What can be done NOW is to stop them from raising our property taxes, water and garbage bills. In fact our property taxes should be lowered due to the real estate market, economic and social crisis. Unless Counsel hears from the population, I am afraid, they may just pass it this year.
To be fair, having attended many counsel meetings as a spectator, I have come to see that not all of the Counsel is worthless. Mr Jenkins and Mr. Anderson are still keeping the interest of residents at heart. Mr. Jenkins being the most vocal about it. But it takes all of them to have interest in us. Not once have I heard Mr. Fraser, Mr. Floyd or Mr. Shaw speak up for the people. Clearly their interests are not in behalf of the residents. Unless you let it be known, by calling them, that raising our taxes and utility bills is unacceptable they will do what they have been doing.......THIS IS IMPORTANT!!

"Unless you let it be known, by calling them..."

It's very interesting - here is the official web page for the city of Hinesville, which lists "important numbers" residents can call to contact presumably "important" members of our local government.

http://www.cityofhinesville.org/index...

NOTE THAT NEITHER THE HINESVILLE MAYOR'S OFFICE NOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THE LIST!!! I guess this means we aren't supposed to call them (or that they aren't really "important").

I found the number for the mayor's office via a google search: 876-3564. (It's also listed at the bottom of the above linked page, but it is not identified as the number for the Hinesville Mayor's Office.) I assume one can contact the city council (or find out how to do it) by calling the same number. Even though the stated hours are 8 a.m. - 5 p.m., I wouldn't call much after 4 p.m. if you actually want to speak with someone.

If you call 876-3564, ask for the phone numbers for each counsel man and mayor. They will give you their home numbers/cell phone numbers

Thanks for the info. But it is a curious "oversight" that the city's web page lists just about every city organization as well as the phone number for every other mayor's office in the area EXCEPT the Hinesville mayor.

JimmyMack, as long as there are any participants on this site (like me)who are not identified then this medium is less credible.

I would be happy to identify myself if every single one on here did the same.

However I will not do so as long as any other participant remains unidentified.

I saw where you posted that you have a history of writing letters to the editor and that you do not participate in SOUND OFF.

I don't participate in the sound off either and I do not read it.

It has no credibility at all.

This medium (as long as it allows unknown participants) has scantly more credibility than sound off.

Unfortunately journalism and the forth estate are both declining in credibility.

As the integrity of journalism declines so does the society which it serves.

"This medium (as long as it allows unknown participants) has scantly more credibility than sound off."

But without unknown participants there would be less chance for the sandbox, no? We must lead by example. I started off here as an anonymous poster - like (it seemed) just about everybody else. After some "encouragement" by Jimmy, I turned off the cloaking device.

You'll never get everybody to disclose real names unless you make it a site requirement, and that won't happen.

Then it will forever remain scantly more credible than sound off.

Sound Off is a place for people to vent without attribution. I read it just to see what people in the community are (apparently) thinking. I assume that Sound Off participants are sincere in their comments, but you never know.

Same goes for here.

sebekm as I see it the most glaring deficiency in our society is the decline of ethics in journalism and the tv media's willingness to script the so called news reporting.

Allowing sound off as well as bloggers to vent without identifying themselves is adding to the problem.

Most of this is little more than tabloid journalism.

Sad yes, but true.

I will say again, there are numerous justified reasons to remain under cloak. An example would be a person who worked for the Mayor's office speaking against some of the activities going on at city hall who would lose their jobs if their identities are known. Just because you know someone's name does not make them more creditable. Their behvavior and infomation provided on these boards makes this board creditable or not.

Up2 says it best, but one other reason people "remain under cloak" is so they can sling mud and talk trash without having to bear any responsibilty for what they say.

I'm all for "cloaking" the whistleblowers - I understand that. But when you cloak the trash-talkers, you only facilitate their talking more trash.

But you can't have it both ways. Free speech is a b**** of a taskmaster.

Sebe and Up2 are correct...mostly. I really do not have a problem with some anonymity here. But, and it is a big BUT, if'n you are going to name call, label or denigrate a blogger anonomously then, in my mind you MUST identify yourself.

Otherwise you become Klan type or that second gun on the grassy knoll that no one has seemed capable of finding.

I believe, that they have to be called out into visibility.

...and speaking of whistle-blowers:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/whi...