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Last years budget shortage was right at $1Mil. Items such as furloughs, cutting of bonuses, raising of property taxes was proposed to create more revenue for the City.
Essential personnel such as Firefighters, Police, etc haven't had a pay raise in over 3 years meanwhile the top 10% elected and appointed continued giving themselves pay raises. Trips to China and Sea Island continued rather than concentrating on attracting industry, thus creating jobs in Hinesville and not leaning on Ft. Stewart only.

1year later the deficit has risen once again and raising of property taxes has come to the forefront. Keep in mind, Liberty Co. is already one of the highest tax rate counties in GA. Higher than Savannah or Atlanta. Foreclosures are huge and Tax Sales surely will follow.
No Pay raises or bonuses. Not sure about you, but I want to know that firefighters will respond to a fire and police will respond to a distress call.

Here is a solution to raising revenue! How about holding the ones (elected and appointed) accountable for the mismanagement and frivolous spending. Cut their pay, after all it was their decision. Get rid of unnecessary jobs such as Assistant City Manager, etc....unnecessary Depts. such as Downtown Development Authority.

This leadership has proven itself incompetent. Mayor Thomas leadership has run this town in the ground with the outrageous spending. Serving his second term now he is not concerned about re-election. How about rest of Counsel? I would be worried if i wanted to be re-elected.

In the Corporate world they would have all been fired by now. Reality is, running a City is running a business. A business for profit.

Be at the 18 Oct. meeting if you can. Have your voice be heard. If you can not make it, burn up your Counsel man's phone lines. They are working for us, we are NOT working for them!!! They have gotten away with this far too long.

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golfnut31316 commented on Saturday, Oct 13, 2012 at 19:26 PM

I would say for the residents of Hinesville there is no hope, why because the citizens re-elected them.

I am glad I don't live in Hinesville.

Sheran commented on Saturday, Oct 13, 2012 at 22:12 PM

I agree with golfnut31316 and if Obama is re-elected were all going down a path of destruction. Is Mayor Thomas kin to Obama, is this the gov'ment promise land?

timeontarget commented on Sunday, Oct 14, 2012 at 08:21 AM

"Reality is, running a City is running a business. A business for profit."

Mayor Thomas is first a retired military and second a retired government employee.

Then he was elected Mayor of Hinesville.

About the same time it was briefly reported that his home was being foreclosed on for non payment.

A former military officer drawing a tidy retirement check as well as his retirement check from the corps of engineers couldn't keep his home mortgage payments made on time.

He must have chosen to live beyond his means.

Apparently he had little or no management skill that would apply to the world of business.

Reality is he was not a good choice for the role of mayor.

watchfuleye commented on Sunday, Oct 14, 2012 at 09:04 AM

I couldn't agree with timeontarget more! Sadly the 5 Counsel man appear to follow his ideology or just don't have the stamina to stand up to him.

I is unfortunate that most people are exhibiting the "Ostrich Syndrome" due to mislead loyalty , indifference or sheer ignorance, hoping it will all go away rather than being pro-active. WRONG! It will only get worse and eventually we will find ourselves, like sheep, being led to the slaughter house.

Graeme245 commented on Sunday, Oct 14, 2012 at 09:24 AM

There's always hope that said however, with the current city council they have done nothing but show the electorate poor financial skills in good times, the hard times haven't hit yet...no matter how hard they deny it things are about to get really rough around here;


Hinesville/Liberty County has benefitted over the past 30yrs from Ft Stewart to a degree that borders on the criminal without taking a shred of responsibility for its actions. That will not be allowed to continue...

up2sumptin commented on Monday, Oct 15, 2012 at 16:05 PM

Now I know what Cassandra felt like standing on the ealls of Troy.

Graeme245 commented on Monday, Oct 15, 2012 at 16:48 PM

Yup it really doesn't matter which version of the tale you prefer they all end the same way, that's Greek Tragedies for you, do you think they'll have the outdoor theatre ready at Bryan Commons in time for a local production of some works by Aeschylus (sorry couldn't resist)

up2sumptin commented on Monday, Oct 15, 2012 at 16:50 PM

That should be "walls of Troy". Dang stoopid fingers!

Tis true but a fine example of what happens to those who don't keep their promises

up2sumptin commented on Monday, Oct 15, 2012 at 18:12 PM

Oh you forgot she was also murdered by King Agamemnon's wife.

Sheran commented on Monday, Oct 15, 2012 at 19:13 PM

@ Jimmy Mack.
Yet, I am going to keep on running my mouth and typing out what I perceive as total injustices even if they fall on deaf ears. The ONLY way to get their attention is for enough people to go to the polls and vote them out.

If not done, as I have said, it is only going to get worse.
I agree, same with Obama,Darlin.

Funkentelecky commented on Monday, Oct 15, 2012 at 21:22 PM

Correct Sheran, BHO needs to Go!

timeontarget commented on Tuesday, Oct 16, 2012 at 06:29 AM

Jimmy Mack I too have lived my entire life here and I agree with much of what you write.

I don't understand your seemingly blind support for a young President who has a terrible record.

Like Hinesville the Nation is in the worst shape that it has been in our lifetime.

I know of nobody currently in office at any level who is worthy of reelection.

Your beloved Democratic party and their partners the Republican party have joined together in the greatest partisan effort of all to ruin the political process.

See blog posted last week about the two party stranglehold.

I believe if we declared no party affiliation for any member of congress then and only then we would see some accomplishment in Washington.

Graeme245 commented on Tuesday, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:26 AM

I agree the whole darned lot have to go, what bothers me to no end is the number of people that can't wrap their minds around the facts that it's about to get a whole lot worse...our elected officials have been buying & spending time on our dime to include the monies meant for a rainy day plus maxed out the credit cards, haven't paid a bill one with any real funds and it's all coming due NOW and we're beyond broke so we're going sell a few pounds of flesh & lord knows how many souls to keep the wolf from the door.

Back to Hinesville, our elected officials can't hide in that building forever, they will have to face the wrath of the electorate. Are they smart enough to understand that the budget has to be trimmed by at least 20%? Very hard times are about to befall Hinesville/Liberty/Ft.Stewart and raising property taxes on empty buildings will not fill the coffers...

Iknowyou commented on Tuesday, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Back on the subject of higher taxes.

Unless you are a business owner you probably did not notice how the Hinesville City Franchise Fees, Hinesville City Excse Fees and how other Taxes, Fees and Surcharges went up this past July.

Graeme245 commented on Tuesday, Oct 16, 2012 at 14:16 PM

"sebekm" I'm pretty sure Ross Perot had Cassandra on the Reform Party ticket...(which would explain her demise)

watchfuleye commented on Tuesday, Oct 16, 2012 at 15:16 PM

As a general consensus we are and have been agreeing that that there needs to be a change in leadership but that nothing can be done about it right this moment. What can be done NOW is to stop them from raising our property taxes, water and garbage bills. In fact our property taxes should be lowered due to the real estate market, economic and social crisis. Unless Counsel hears from the population, I am afraid, they may just pass it this year.
To be fair, having attended many counsel meetings as a spectator, I have come to see that not all of the Counsel is worthless. Mr Jenkins and Mr. Anderson are still keeping the interest of residents at heart. Mr. Jenkins being the most vocal about it. But it takes all of them to have interest in us. Not once have I heard Mr. Fraser, Mr. Floyd or Mr. Shaw speak up for the people. Clearly their interests are not in behalf of the residents. Unless you let it be known, by calling them, that raising our taxes and utility bills is unacceptable they will do what they have been doing.......THIS IS IMPORTANT!!

watchfuleye commented on Tuesday, Oct 16, 2012 at 15:39 PM

If you call 876-3564, ask for the phone numbers for each counsel man and mayor. They will give you their home numbers/cell phone numbers

timeontarget commented on Wednesday, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:40 AM

JimmyMack, as long as there are any participants on this site (like me)who are not identified then this medium is less credible.

I would be happy to identify myself if every single one on here did the same.

However I will not do so as long as any other participant remains unidentified.

I saw where you posted that you have a history of writing letters to the editor and that you do not participate in SOUND OFF.

I don't participate in the sound off either and I do not read it.

It has no credibility at all.

This medium (as long as it allows unknown participants) has scantly more credibility than sound off.

Unfortunately journalism and the forth estate are both declining in credibility.

As the integrity of journalism declines so does the society which it serves.

timeontarget commented on Wednesday, Oct 17, 2012 at 15:24 PM

Then it will forever remain scantly more credible than sound off.

timeontarget commented on Friday, Oct 19, 2012 at 05:55 AM

sebekm as I see it the most glaring deficiency in our society is the decline of ethics in journalism and the tv media's willingness to script the so called news reporting.

Allowing sound off as well as bloggers to vent without identifying themselves is adding to the problem.

Most of this is little more than tabloid journalism.

Sad yes, but true.

up2sumptin commented on Friday, Oct 19, 2012 at 08:25 AM

I will say again, there are numerous justified reasons to remain under cloak. An example would be a person who worked for the Mayor's office speaking against some of the activities going on at city hall who would lose their jobs if their identities are known. Just because you know someone's name does not make them more creditable. Their behvavior and infomation provided on these boards makes this board creditable or not.

up2sumptin commented on Friday, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:24 PM

But you can't have it both ways. Free speech is a b**** of a taskmaster.

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