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NPR posted-It's not so much what Mitt Romney said about whether the government should guarantee people health care in his interview on CBS's "60 Minutes" Sunday that has health care policy types buzzing. It's how that compares to what he has said before.

To back up a bit, Scott Pelley asked the former Massachusetts governor if he thought "the government has a responsibility to provide health care to the 50 million Americans who don't have it today?"

Responded Romney:

"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance ... if someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and — and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care."

That was basically Romney's way of saying that people who don't have insurance can always go to the hospital emergency room.

Yet in 2010, in an appearance on MSNBC, Romney said almost exactly the opposite: "It doesn't make a lot of sense for us to have millions and millions of people who have no health insurance and yet who can go to the emergency room and get entirely free care for which they have no responsibility," he said at the time.

That's because back then, Romney was defending the Massachusetts law he signed as governor. It's the one that requires most people to either have health insurance or pay a fine. Just like the federal law he now vows to repeal.

He used even more colorful language back in 2007, talking to Fox News host Glenn Beck. "When they show up at the hospital, they get care; they get free care paid for by you and me," he said. "If that's not a form of socialism, I don't know what is."

But in addition to flip-flopping, Romney is missing a key fact about the uninsured and emergency room care, says health policy professor Harold Pollack of the University of Chicago. Just because hospitals are required to see patients in the emergency room doesn't mean that care is required to be free.

"The emergency room is perfectly entitled to send you a whopping bill," said Pollack. "And there are many people across America who are facing significant financial problems from serious bills that they've received for emergency care."

It's only when the uninsured don't — or can't — pay those bills that the costs come back to the taxpayers. Pollack also says that Democrats and Republicans largely agree that emergency rooms are wholly inappropriate places for most people to get healthcare.

"It's just about the least cost effective way you can get your medical care. And we also have really damaged the institution of emergency department care by expecting it to take on these burdens it's not really designed to assume; to provide primary care to low income people," he said.

Romney is always quick to say he still supports the law he signed in Massachusetts. He simply doesn't want to require other states to do the same thing. But one of the continuing ironies of his health care position is that it was hundreds of millions of federal dollars that made the Massachusetts health law feasible. Under a Romney administration, other states likely wouldn't get a similar chance.


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up2sumptin commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 07:24 AM

I don't see a flip flop. Romney said that you shouldn't be able to go to the E R and get free health care rather than have insurance and go to their pcp. Anyone who had to go to an E R knows that it is filled with people who have minor complaints that can be handled in a doctor's office. Romney then said that if you had a real emergency, such as a heart attack, whether or not you have insurance you should be seen. No where did he say that would be a free service. This is in line with what is occurring in most ERs across the nation, under BHO's watch. Go to the ER here with no insurance and a minor complaint. You will bed expected to pay up front or you will not be seen.

Iknowyou commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 07:58 AM

We have become a Welfare Nation, it seems like everyone wants another handout.

golfnut31316 commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 15:31 PM

I don't see the flip flop....

JimmyMack commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 17:25 PM

Hi Sebe. "Thanks" for pulling me in to this one! You know where I am going to go with it. Romney doesn't care about the "other" 47% of the nation. He's about more deregulation, tax cuts for the rich, turning a blind eye towards Wall Street and insider trading, gutting the Food Stamp program(dem babies dont's need to eats), and more than anything else: outsourcing jobs to increase the wealth of the already wealthy.

PoliticsNation commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 18:30 PM

Everyone's starting to see the light!It's not to late to get on board..

President Barack Obama is leading with some groups of the electorate that I didn't expect. According to a new Zogby poll, the president is beating Republican Mitt Romney by 7 points with NASCAR fans. The Huffington Post has more: (The Giro)

NASCAR team owners may count Mitt Romney among their friends, but that doesn’t mean fans of the sport will necessarily vote for him, according to an online poll from JZ Analytics.

Barack Obama led Mitt Romney by 7 points, 49 percent to 42 percent, among the 202 voters who said they were fans of NASCAR, according to the survey, conducted by pollster John Zogby and spotted by the left-leaning PoliticusUSA blog. The president had an almost 9-point lead among the full sample of voters.

http://bit.ly/S3lSDE

timeontarget commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 14:53 PM

I don't really believe that most Nascar fans support Obama.

I'm a devoted NASCAR fan and I don't know any NASCAR fan who supports Obama.

Please write your own thoughts and stop trying to promote your positition by posting a referance to something posted by someone else at some other time in space.

Say what you think.

Sorry for any negative feelings but we are all having too much fun in our attempts to "one up" each other and consquently we fail to dig to the real meat of the issues of current events.

up2sumptin commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 15:07 PM

What do you think is the "real meat" of the issue TOT??

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 16:12 PM

Sebe: your independtly fair analysis of issues always amazes me. I did not know of the Zogby poll but as a true independent you posted it!!!

I've always thought that as long as the Nascar fans, for the most part, remembered Hilary's 'stand by your man' comment that there wasn't a chance in Hades to ever garner any of their votes.

Life is strange.,,,

JimmyMack commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 13:41 PM

Dem be some bodacious ta-ta's!!!

up2sumptin commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 18:14 PM

4 shame jimmy lol

timeontarget commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 18:15 PM

Oh yea been there and done that'

Nice

Now we're older.

Better get serious.


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