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In an article from Forbes, they ask the question: "If The US Spends $550 Billion On Poverty How Can There Still Be Poverty In The US?"
With as much money as the US is spending on the poor, through food stamps, child care, school lunches, medicaid and other government sponsered benefits, why are many still living in poverty? At half a Trillion dollars a year one would think there would be some imporvement (reminds me of the school issue but that is another blog.) So what is the answer? Leave people to starve or continue as we are going?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/09/13/if-the-us-spends-550-billion-on-poverty-how-can-there-still-be-poverty-in-the-us/2/





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sebekm commented on Thursday, Sep 13, 2012 at 22:52 PM

Tax and spend is obviously not the answer. When we can throw this much money at "poverty" and have such little effect, it just proves that our focus for the past four years should have been on the economy and JOBS. Instead, our leaderless government has fiddled away the time and what have they got to show for it? OBAMACARE. Meanwhile, our embassies around the world are getting torched; an ambassador is murdered; and we'll have more "flexibility" with the Russions in 2013.

We must remember all of this in November.

Iknowyou commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 08:22 AM

The government announced today that its changing the flag to a CONDOM, because it more accurately reflects to the governments political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of dickheads, and gives you a sense of security while your actually being screwed.

sebekm commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM

It also demonstrates where this administration's priorities have been for the past four years. We already KNEW that they considered Obamacare, sexual orientation, birth control, and abortion more important that jobs, the economy, and keeping people out of poverty. So the new "flag" fits that. Now we find out that Obamacare, sexual orientation, birth control and abortion are more important to them than keeping our ambassadors and foreign embassies secure.

Perhaps the new flag should be a condom with a vintage-60s PEACE sign on it.

sebekm commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM

...more important thaN jobs, that is...

HMJC commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 16:20 PM

It really does not flag we have, he won't pay proper respect

JimmyMack commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 16:31 PM

There needs to be more accountability in the FoodStamp Program. How you do that I do not know. But I do know that many if not most of all these born babies deserves food. A cracked out parent ain't probably gonna do it, but many in poverty will use their stamps as they are intended.

sebekm commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 16:43 PM

...and more good news for the economy - U.S. Credit Rating Cut AGAIN:

"Ratings firm Egan-Jones cut its credit rating on the U.S. government to "AA-" from "AA," citing its opinion that quantitative easing from the Federal Reserve would hurt the U.S. economy and the country's credit quality."

and

"In its downgrade, the firm said that issuing more currency and depressing interest rates through purchasing mortgage-backed securities does little to raise the U.S.'s real gross domestic product, but reduces the value of the dollar.

In turn, this increases the cost of commodities, which will pressure the profitability of businesses and increase the costs of consumers thereby reducing consumer purchasing power, the firm said."

See: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49037337

"...reduces the value of the dollar...(and)....increase the costs of consumers...(and)...thereby (FURTHER) reducing consuming purchasing power."

Just what we need. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! The current national leadership is the one that's driving us off the fiscal cliff.

Remember in November.

JimmyMack commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM

We have a moral obligation to feed the hungry and starving people of not only our country but the world. One of the first things a Romney-Ryan plan would be to cut social programs for the needy. Especially Food Stamps. Federally funded mental health programs along with the VA will be slashed to the bone. Ryan's draconian "budget" makes Ivan the Terrible look like a Saint.

sebekm commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

In tough times you need tough solutions. I vote for Ivan.

Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 19:10 PM

We have a moral obligation to feed the hungry and starving people of not only our country but the world. One of the first things a Romney-Ryan plan would be to cut social programs for the needy. Especially Food Stamps. Federally funded mental health programs along with the VA will be slashed to the bone. Ryan's draconian "budget" makes Ivan the Terrible look like a Saint.

You are right brother Jimmy in your first sentence; however Leviathan doesn’t have the authority to do so. We have wasted 16T already, see it here:

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/17/m...

I vote for Ivan too!

up2sumptin commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 22:29 PM

For me the answer is not simple. As Christians, we are charged to care for the poor. The idea someone is going without food or a child having no home doesn't sit well with me (and don't suggest CPS because that is an even more expensive solution.) On the other hand, the current 'throw money at it' mentality isn't working either. The Bilble says there will always be poor people but does it mean we stop caring?

Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 22:52 PM

No up2, In Amerca if you are poor and are serious about achieving your dreams all you need to do is take personal responsibility for yourself and work for a living gaining valuable experiences that enable you to climb the economic ladder to success. I’ve said time and again that I’m black from a family of 11 children, slept 3 to a bed, no hot running water with an outhouse awaiting outside and and a strong mother who instilled in us the will to succeed with Christian values and respect for your elders. The cycle just continues in America for people who hold these values, and if you don’t you stay poor.

Funkentelecky commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 22:56 PM

In a nutshell, when you accept American culture and act upon it, you are on the road to success.

up2sumptin commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 08:18 AM

I think that may well be an over simplification of the problem. Let's set aside the unemployed who may or may not be jobless because of the economy. There are a lot ofpeople who are employed but are essentially living in proverty. More jobs would be the answer but they would have to be quality jobs. But many quality jobs are being shipped overseas because materials and wages are cheaper. American could work for less while bog business pockets the profits

up2sumptin commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 08:21 AM

I think that may well be an over simplification of the problem. Let's set aside the unemployed who may or may not be jobless because of the economy. There are a lot ofpeople who are employed but are essentially living in proverty. More jobs would be the answer but they would have to be quality jobs. But many quality jobs are being shipped overseas because materials and wages are cheaper. American could work for less while big business pockets the profits but Iam afraid what would end up happening is we would oweour souls to the company store. A corporate serfdom.

Funkentelecky commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Up2, bless your soul; however that’s the same argument the left has been espousing for years and most recently during the GWB full unemployment year averages of 5.2%. You can’t talk about profits without considering profit margins too. When you have businesses thriving whether large or small wealth is created thru job creation. I’m not oversimplifying at all. I graduated HS worked for Planters Peanuts, got laid off worked as a dishwasher and then Arthur Treachers Seafood restaurant and then enlisted in the US Army and served 21 years retiring as a Sergeant First Class and now work for a Large, Profital,Diversified and Successful Business. The reason people are hurting now is because of the partisan ideologue in the Whitehouse right now that needs a pink slip on November 6th. You want more jobs to stay here then go vote for Romney so he can lower the corporate tax rate which would encourage business to stay here. Here’s an example of Exxon Mobil record quarterly profit of 15.9 Billion and the profit margin was 12%. They earned a total 127.4 Billion. 7.5 Billion Was earned from divestments and tax related items, excluding the special credit the company earned 8.4 Billion. The company paid 26.6 Billion in taxes and royalties even though it had to do the research, drilling, refining exploring, and whatever else needed to meet consumer needs.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/26/news/...

And yes they pay more than their fair share, and what about the Federal Government why aren’t you concerned about their 100% profit margins they receive while wasting it all on Big Government.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exxon...

So as you can see their profit margins are in line and within reason, additionally as BHO would say “a teachable moment” He is in cahoots with Jeff Immelt the CEO of GE who doesn’t pay any taxes and is shipping jobs over seas.

JimmyMack commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 17:36 PM

WE are all going to fall into the financial abyss that is not too far off no matter who is running the country.

To my mind: Deregulation, blind eye to lending procedures, and tax breaks for the rich set us on this course.

sebekm commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 17:54 PM

If I'm going to fall into the abyss, I want to do so while this country is being run by ROMNEY. Here's my rationale:

To remain in a vehicle heading over a cliff that is operated by somebody you KNOW doesn't have a clue about how to drive makes no sense at all. Four more years of Obama = falling into the abyss WITH CERTAINTY.

A fresh start with Romney = at least a chance that the vehicle will stop or turn before disaster strikes.

Funkentelecky commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 20:56 PM

That’s a good one there Chief, I hope Brother Jimmy can at least acknowledge that.

Brother Jimmy contrary to your beliefs, keeping the Bush Tax Cuts in place is not lowering taxes for the rich it’s simply keeping the rates the same as they have been for over 10 years.

For starts it’s a Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” Tactic of class warfare by the Grandmaster of Community Organizers himself.
I trust that 70-86 Billion to stay in the hands of the entrepreneurs responsible for making it. News flash, Leviathan spends and wastes 86 Billion in less than 10 days

JimmyMack commented on Thursday, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:31 AM

WE shall see, we shall see.

Funkentelecky commented on Thursday, Sep 20, 2012 at 21:10 PM

To my mind: Deregulation, blind eye to lending procedures, and tax breaks for the rich set us on this course.

Brother Jimmy it’s ironic how I missed you telling the truth however blaming the wrong party. The proof is in the pudding or may I say CSPAN2 video to admit the truth you will have to watch the video below and digest it. If you don’t you are just spinning the conversation over and over again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInS...

As you can see Brother Jimmy if you have or had enough curiosity to review the video you will clearly see how your devoted progressive democrats blocked regulation of the virus responsible for blind eye lending procedures causing the greatest economic recession since the great depression. Finally letting individuals and businesses keep 70-86 Billion per year of their hard earned money didn’t exacerbate the problem, spending 70-86 Billion per 10 days did. I rest my case sir!

JimmyMack commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

"I rest my case sir."

So did the prosecution in the OJ trial.

MY man by a nose at the wire.

sebekm commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Jimmy....I don't know about the comparison to the OJ trial. With OJ - "if the gloves don't fit, you must acquit." With Obama - if the job isn't done, you must fire the bum.

Speaking of throwing the bums out: I filled out my mail-in ballot yesterday. "Heeza Crook" and "Elmer Fudd" were write-in candidates, but I doubt either one has a real chance to win. (It's those darn swing districts.....)


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