Gone Baby Gone...
by HMJC
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As my wife and I sat in a local eating establishment we had the "pleasure" of observing 4 young womon removing any doubt of thier sexual orientation. They were also "kind" enough to verbally identify themslves as Soldiers. The mannerisms and conversation were obnoxious with the obvious intent of exercising the repeal of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" for all in earshot. I retired from the Army in 06; my 21+ years of service saw many changes. Some good, some not so good. Any change in military law is defined as "for the good order and disipline of the ranks" In a nut shell, changes should be of the sort that does not promote adversity amoung the ranks and should not be focused on one demographic. I am not adverse to the gay lifestyle as long as it is not force fed and does not expect me to high five someone based on their sexual orieintation. I have no doubt I served with gay Soldiers however, our service and conversations were not dominated by sexual orientation. With that said, my personal opinion is that all Soldiers have a duty to project themselves in a "uniform" fashion that represents ALL Soldiers and our values and ethos. Sexual orientation is not on the list... I was brought up to conduct myself as an "example" on and off duty to demostrate the pride and purpose for all to see. Once again, I was not taught ensure I established my sexual preferance. Bottom Line, if you are gay, good on ya. However, if you are a Soldier, you have a duty to represent yourself as a example of ALL Soldiers, your own personal views and activities is superceded by this fact. Some will agree with me, some will not...I just feel that your personal life should be just that, personal


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HMJC commented on Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Thanks for youe insight, I fear many will not reply as they really do not know the impact of the "21st Century" Here is a linkk that further illistrates my concerns.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/...

I loved being a Soldier, it will always be a part of my life. It just saddens me to see the decline of pride and honor that was such a part of my service.

golfnut31316 commented on Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I will have to agree with you. I retired in 2004 and since that time I have seen a down grade in the professionalism of soldiers both in and out of uniform. It is mostly the younger enlisted crowd, although I have seen some SGT's and SSG's with conduct that I would unbecoming.

I don't not have a problem introducing myself to them and inform them that they are disrespecting the uniform, the country and all of us citizens around them.

HMJC commented on Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 15:08 PM

Seb, as usual is 100% right. The military always suffers under a democratic administration. If this cat gets 4 more years, it is going to be a free for all. The reality is that the receipents of all of the social programs are going to vote in order to maintain thier current staus quo. If we dont start having our own picnic/voting events, he will get reelected. I dont know fellas, it looks kind of bleak...Thanks to all that have served and truly understand my concerns...

Funkentelecky commented on Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 15:13 PM

2016 Obama'a America
LOVE HIM, HATE HIM
YOU DON'T KNOW HIM!

Go see it. We have a country to save!

timeontarget commented on Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 18:33 PM

Guys believe it or not I am with you on this issue.

gacpl commented on Saturday, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:05 AM

the standard in order to get in the military have dropped so low, a lot of the military today would be living in the ghetto if the military did let them in. and they have been letting convicted felons join too, then they act surprised when they act like criminals. i didn't have the highest GT score when i joined in 1988 (110), but i recently seen a recruiting poster at the darian outlet mall stating the required score is only 31, 31 is borderline retarded.

up2sumptin commented on Saturday, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM

The 31 is to get into the infantry. The score flexes depending on the need. Basicly, you're just cannon fodder and not put into any skilled positions.

lholmes commented on Saturday, Aug 25, 2012 at 18:07 PM

last movie I saw in the theatre was the first Iron Man.

golfnut31316 commented on Sunday, Aug 26, 2012 at 13:00 PM

up2sumptin commented on Saturday, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM

The 31 is to get into the infantry. The score flexes depending on the need. Basicly, you're just cannon fodder and not put into any skilled positions.

I know many in the Infantry of TODAY'S Army, including my son. You may want to visit a few "Light Infantry" units and you may rethink the "Skilled positions.

up2sumptin commented on Sunday, Aug 26, 2012 at 16:16 PM

Golfnut, I know there are skilled and intelligent eleven bang bangs. I was speaking of a certain segment of that population and not the entire mos.

timeontarget commented on Monday, Aug 27, 2012 at 07:11 AM

Back to the core issue of this particular blog.

Homosexuality is an abomination.

Our tolerance of it should not be answered with ever increasing display of unnatural behaviour in public.

As was said earlier private life should remain just that private.

HMJC commented on Monday, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:25 AM

I am glad to see that even though our opinions differ most times,we can see our way clear and focus on what is really occuring, not what could occur.

gacpl commented on Monday, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM

on the lighter side

"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then
it became optional. I'm getting out before Obama makes it
mandatory."

-GySgt Harry Berres, USMC


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