Another Reason Why A Republican Won't Win in 2012
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NEWS FLASH - ASSOCIATED PRESS - March 22, 2012 10:37 PM

"Presidential candidate Rick Santorum on Thursday said Republicans should give President Barack Obama another term if Santorum isn’t the GOP nominee and for a second day compared rival Mitt Romney to an Etch A Sketch toy."


IMHO - this is the kind of zaniness and disunity that exemplifies the Republican Party today. Two years ago I flatly stated that the 2012 presidential election was President Obama's to lose. It has never been more evident than today. I also suggested that - for what ever reason - the economy would improve and that unemployment would probably be dipping below 8% nationally shortly before the election. In actuality, the numbers have been slowly dropping nation-wide, and it was just reported that it HAS dropped below 8% in Ohio - a historically bellwether state in U.S. presidential elections. See:

Of all the U.S. presidents in my lifetime, I probably admire Ronald Reagan the most. One of the (I think) really smart political concepts that Reagan supported is what was called "The Eleventh Commandment." In his 1990 autobiography, Reagan explained:

"The personal attacks against me during the (1966 CA gubernatorial) primary finally became so heavy that the state Republican chairman, Gaylord Parkinson, postulated what he called the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It's a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since."

This "commandment" obviously can be applied to ANY political party, but in recent years Republicans in particular appear to have forgotten it. They also seem to have forgotten that when you are campaigning against an incumbent with an essentially "lead-pipe-cinch" base, you need all the party unity you can get.

Well - the Republicans don't have any, and it's just another reason why we'll have four more years of the Obama administration.

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HMJC commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Right on sebe, at this rate the obamanator does not have to do any campaigning. He just has to sit back and let the Republican party drive around in clown cars and insult each other. If you think about it, he has opererated the the whole time he has been president. He champions causes he knows the republican party will not endorse and says " I tried" Even when he knows the health care reform was not well thought out and sustaianable, he can still say "I tried" and still look like a hero. I think I am going to succeed from the "union" put hurricane fence up and let it play out. So tired of the whole "political process" It seems all we can do is complain about it but it never changes.

sebekm commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Yes - it will be interesting to see what the Supremes do in their upcoming ruling on Obamacare. If it stands, apparently the Republican's will "press on." See:

sebekm commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:44 PM

...the Republicans, that is...

Iknowyou commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:51 PM

What I don't understand is why does Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich keep putting millions of dollars into a sinking ship.

They could be donating that money to charity or to a deserving organization.

sebekm commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 13:01 PM

I guess it's because they think that the typical Republican voter is so unenthusiastic about Romney that they can each win at the convention.

I don't me when you take a step back and view the greater picture, their actions are tantamount to pushing the self-destruct button repeatedly for a Republican's chances in November. I mean - after all - not only does the econony have to tank prior to the election, but Republican voters also have to come out in droves in order for whoever the R-candidate is to win.

IMHO - they ought to just concede 2012; regroup; and start working toward 2016. Yes - let Obama run UNOPPOSED - that ought to shake things up......

Iknowyou commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 13:06 PM

That would be the best thing to do.
I would never vote for Mitt Romney just because of his past job.
Firing and laying off workers and stealing their pensions and 401K's.

HMJC commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 13:40 PM

We could always write in mickey mouse for president and see how that goes.... We need a "common man" in office. Someone who really has expierenced hard times and is commited to his fellow man. A man that has been without is more probable to legitimetly address real issues, not special interest groups

Iknowyou commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 14:10 PM

We had a common man in office and look what happened.
Jimmy Carter.

HMJC commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 15:07 PM

Different Times and political climate. The time is now

sebekm commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 15:54 PM

Yes - before I read IKYs comment that's who I thought of - Jimmy Carter.

The problem is that a "common man" just can't win (I think). If he or she is "too common," the media brands them as unsophisticated bumpkins (if they're a REPUBLICAN, that is - think DUBYA) - even if they're born with a silver spoon (or foot) in their mouths.

Carter sold himself as a "common man" on the heels of the Nixon fiasco, and parlayed that into a successful bid for the White House. IMHO - the real reason he got in was that the country was totally fed up with the GOP, and would have elected any non-Republican whose name wasn't SATAN.

Carter actually graduated near the top of his class at the U.S. Naval Academy, and during his career developed a very high degree of expertise in nuclear propulsion systems for submarines. Prior to being elected as Georgia governor in 1970, he was a very successful businessman (peanut farming - as we all well know). Not really very "common."

I'm thinking that the last REAL "common man" we had as president was Abraham Lincoln. Andrew Jackson was known as "the common man's President," but I'm not sure that he was actually a "common man" himself as he was also tagged as a "rich slaveowner."

Here's an interesting analysis of U.S. presidents going back to Herbert Hoover which catetorizes them by background "class" (as opposed to their possession of the personal trait or lack thereof). The analysis also opines as to whether they were a "good" or a "bad" president:

sebekm commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 16:05 PM

Regarding the analysis at the above link, I especially like the caveat just below the table:

"Research for (t)his table relied heavily (strike that) ENTIRELY (emphasis added) on a certain online encyclopedia – because this is a blog post, not a peer-reviewed study."

Hmmmmmm.....The author used a certain online encyclopedia rather than other, more "academic" sources BECAUSE THE ANALYSIS IS A BLOG POST, NOT A PEER-REVIEWED STUDY.

I couldn't have said that better myself.

golfnut31316 commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 20:23 PM

Ron Paul.

Funkentelecky commented on Friday, Mar 23, 2012 at 20:38 PM

If the Republican nominee is picked at the convention, President Obama will win a landslide IMHO! However this mudslinging going on right now doesn’t necessarily spell doom for Republicans. President Obama and Hillary Clinton mudslinging went on till June 2008. President Reagan didn’t get the Republican nomination till May 1980, this history tells me that your nominee becomes stronger because most of the dirt has been slung at you so you become immune to it like the flu shot. McCain had already won the nomination at this time four years ago while BHO and HC pounded each other with mud.

Here is one of my favorites by HC:

The Recession was over in the summer of 09 and BHO Keynesian Economics have failed. The BLS recently changed the way unemployment is measured and more accurate analysis can be reviewed in this Gallup Poll. If a Republican incumbent had failed this miserably he would be pressured to resign. In 2004 the Economy was booming, unemployment was low and GWB barely won re-election. Gallup poll below:

Funkentelecky commented on Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM

BHO needs to GO!

He is not a problem solver, he is part of the problem.

We will get a more clearer picture of how the Republicans stand if they get a nominee by early June, when there will be targeted polling.

sebekm commented on Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Hi Funky: I hope you're right - but the Republican Party seems more disorganized than I can ever recall. When a GOP candidate says that the country is better off with the Dem incumbent than they would be with a GOP competitor, that sends the absolutely WRONG signal to the base (both the GOPs and the Dems).

And don't forget the "Likeability Factor." I generally agree with this analysis:

except for the comments on Romney.

Hard core GOPers may not "like" Obama's politics - and by extension transfer their "dislike" to the President personally; however, by all accounts he is much more "likeable" than any of the Republicans, with the possible exception of Herman Cain. Here's another, more "down to earth" discussion of the Likeability Factor - especially how it applied to Cain:

sebekm commented on Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 14:15 PM

...and here's some speculation on the way the GOP nomination might go:

Funkentelecky commented on Saturday, Mar 24, 2012 at 16:22 PM

Great info Chief, even though he doesn't have the likeability factor, IMHO he is the most likeable among the final four. If he's nominated, an it surely looks that way I'm curious whether his likeability can rise some. I'm positive it won't come near BHO's level however!

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