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The Great Gibson Guitar Raid: Months Later, Still No Charges Filed

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sebekm commented on Thursday, Feb 23, 2012 at 21:23 PM

*"Tu Ne Cede Malis Sed Contra Audentior Ito"

Yes - one should proceed boldly against evil, but I prefer:

To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before

*I guess your profile photo is supposed to be Ludwig von Mises, but at first glance it looks like Henry Kissinger...

*The Great Gibson Guitar Raid: Months Later, Still No Charges Filed

I've followed this case for awhile from a distance. Originally, I thought that Gibson was getting screwed, but now I'm not so sure.

In my very early life, I was a musician and every guitarist (and their instructors) I've ever known would only play Gibsons. I've seen some television spots which essentially tell the same tale as your YouTube link. I can't believe that Gibson is in the middle of this, but check this out and see that they do not appear to be an "innocent victim" in this matter:


From your prior posts, I expect that the implied, unstated point of this blog involves the appropriateness/legality of the government action against Gibson, the applicable law itself, a combination thereof, or some related issue. I'm not sure about all that; however, when Gibson complicates the situation with the actions alleged in the above linked article, in a way they appear to have done themselves in and may have only themselves to blame for this whole fiasco. (If the information in the linked article is fact, I can't believe that nobody at Gibson recognized the big-time potential problem with conflict of interest that existed in their dealings with the certifier in this matter.)

LibertyDrum commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:25 AM

No not Mises, or Henry for that matter. You seem to be an astute "googler," so I'm sure it won't take you long to figure it out.

sebekm commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Thanks a lot.

sebekm commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Oh,...I see it's Murray Rothbard. The photo tricked me a bit but I should have made the connection with the "Austrian" in your bio.

By the way - what do you think of this (especially the "conclusion"):


LibertyDrum commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM

I've seen simialr hit pieces before. Sadly, some read that BEFORE anything else, and get a misconception. I would gladly refer anyone to a few books to get a more accurate interpretation. But, as I have said time and time again, if someone WANTS to believe this, all the facts in the world aren't going to change their minds. There's no sense in talking to those who have their eyes and ears closed.

I'm not sure where they got that info though. Mises was a guest teacher at NYU, and taught at other places, so I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion.

Don't you think though, that the Illuminati is one of the most worn out story plots? No one can prove them, yet somehow everyone knows WHO they are. I thought it was the Free Masons on 196? (I'm kidding, of course)


sebekm commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 13:00 PM

I never paid the Illuminati much mind. I've seen the stuff on the History Channel and in the "news" over the years, but I rather quickly came to the conclusion that they were another "boogie man" anybody can find if they looked hard enough. [Kind of like Albert Brooks in "Defending Your Life" (1991), where he says after spending lot of time looking into a mirror, he once thought he saw someone who was Chinese. Then he realized that it was probably just him squinting.]

Yes - the Illuminati, the Free Masons, the Grassy Knoll, the 9/11 Conspiracies, "UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis"...they all show that we can see what we want whenever we want (literally and figuratively).

Just as statistics can be manipulated and "facts" can tell many contradictory tales, so goes man's never ending quest to experience the awe and mystery which reaches out from the inner mind to — The Outer Limits.....

LibertyDrum commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 13:21 PM

Yes, I think its the "hunt" that keeps people in those little groups. It's the fact that, you can't find them/it, that keeps it alive.

Brad Meltzer has a show called "Decoded" on History Channel. On there they were exploring the story behind the Statue of Liberty. Well one man came forth with his belief that she was fully of Illuminati symbols. It made for an interesting show, none the less.

sebekm commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 13:30 PM

Yes - supposedly U.S. history/artifacts (currency, portraits, etc.) is filled with mysterious symbols which - if interpreted "correctly" - will open gateways to vast conspiracies and hidden "truths."

I find it all an interesting speculative mental exercise, but as to what should REALLY be taken seriously? Your guess is as good as mine....

sebekm commented on Friday, Feb 24, 2012 at 14:04 PM

BTW: I find your stated profile birthday to be very interesting. Should it be taken literally, or were you just making reference to the Fists of Righteous Harmony and/or the day compulsory education in the Netherlands went into effect?

LibertyDrum commented on Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 05:12 AM

No, I just was unable to leave that section blank, so I had to enter something. I enjoy my privacy, you understand.

I'd like to make one more point that I forgot earlier, related to your article.

The article claims that the foundation of the libertarian philosophy started within the 19th century. Actually, that’s incorrect.

The term "Libertarian" is more of a modern word. From about the mid 20th century on back, it was called "liberal." Liberal in the terms of civil liberties, liberal to economic markets, etc, etc. Now, it's more accurately used as, "classic liberal." (Since the word "liberal" means something completely different)

The roots of the philosophy date back to authors such as;

Frédéric Bastiat (early-mid 19th century)

Jean-Baptiste Say (early 19th century)

Anne Robert Jacques Turgot (mid 18th century)

Adam Smith (mid 18th century)

even, Aristotle with his views on private property.

The American Classic Liberal takes much from the mindset of the Founding Fathers, who themselves, only carried the philosophy over from times past. Which as you can see, predates America herself.

sebekm commented on Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:52 AM

"I'd like to make one more point that I forgot earlier, related to your article."

In the immortal words of Tricky Dick - "let me make one thing perfectly clear:"

The article I linked to is not "mine" nor are the thoughts, ideas and allegations it conveys. I offered it to inquire as to YOUR views on its content - especially on its "conclusion" - which is obviously a slanted and biased "cherry-pick" which attempts to support the (mostly unfounded) claims which are made above it.

As to privacy - I get it. I enjoy mine too. My favorite days are those which are quiet and uneventful, and which allow me to cohabit with God's precious animals (the non-human type) and family - ALONE.

It's the way of the curmudgeon......

LibertyDrum commented on Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 07:15 AM

We are in agreement.

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